What if play isn’t just something we grow out of—but something we grow into? In this episode, Malcolm talks with musician and urban gardener Leslie Outier about laughter, creativity, and how music, nature, and community can help us reconnect with joy—even in life’s heavier moments.
What You’ll Hear
- Why laughter—even when it starts out fake—still produces real physiological benefits
- How gardening can become a powerful form of play, creativity, and connection
- Leslie’s unexpected journey from art school to urban farming and community food sharing
- The playful and unconventional story behind her music career and joining The Clarences
- Why performing music can reveal a different side of ourselves—and that’s okay
- A simple mindset shift that helps during difficult times: remembering that you will feel better again
Resources Mentioned on this Episode
Check out The Clarences: www.theclarences.com www.facebook.com/theclarences www.youtube.com/theclarences www.instagram.com/theclarences
🎶 The Clarences https://www.theclarances.com
🎵 Leslie’s other band projects on Bandcamp
- Bunny Numkins and the Killblow Up Reaction
- Lisa and the Franks
🌱 Urban farming inspiration mentioned in the episode
- Community food sharing and neighborhood produce programs
🎙 Previous Episodes Featuring Members of The Clarences
- Episode with Robert Medeiros
- Episode with Erin “Queenie” Shannon
Featured Guest: Leslie Outier
The Clarences are a Northern Californian band that’s been around for 20 years! The band members are: Robert A. Medeiros, Erin Shannon & Leslie Outhier!
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Meet the Host: Malcolm Grissom
Malcolm Grissom, affectionately known as "The Stand-up C.E.O.," is a team-building and employee engagement expert. Malcolm, an award-winning actor, comedian, International speaker, and best-selling author, masterfully blends humor, improv, and business acumen to enhance team dynamics and profitability. As a certified laughter leader, he leverages the power of positive psychology and his social work background to create engaging, results-driven experiences. Whether inspiring executives, strengthening teams, or energizing audiences, Malcolm’s unique approach fosters connection, creativity, and success. His ability to transform corporate culture with humor and insight makes him a sought-after speaker and consultant.
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