Conflict is something most of us try to avoid — yet it often holds powerful insight about our needs, our patterns, and our relationships.
In this conversation, Jennifer Nagel sits down with conflict resolution specialist Robyn McTague to explore how tension can become a doorway to deeper self-awareness, compassion, and connection. Together they unpack how curiosity, honesty, and inner work can transform conflict from something we fear into something that guides growth.
What You’ll Hear:
• Why conflict isn’t something we can eliminate — and how learning to navigate it is a lifelong skill
• How our early experiences and family patterns shape the way we respond to tension in relationships
• The hidden gap between how we see ourselves and how we actually show up in the world
• Why curiosity toward ourselves is one of the most powerful tools for resolving conflict
• The role of compassion and self-kindness in transforming reactive patterns
• Simple practices that can help bring us back to ourselves when we feel triggered or overwhelmed
Resources Mentioned:
- Episode 11 (previous interview with Robyn)
- Costa Rica Retreat: Coming Home to Congruence: https://www.congruentpractice.com/costa-rica-retreat
Featured Guest: Robyn McTague
Robyn McTague is a conflict resolution specialist and speaker helping individuals, couples, and teams turn tension into connection. Blending psychology, counselling, and lived experience, she supports clients in breaking patterns of unresolved conflict and building healthier relationships. As founder of A Life of Choice, her work is grounded in curiosity, compassion, and the belief that conflict can lead to clarity and growth.
Follow Robyn:
Website: alifeofchoice.ca
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/robynmctague
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/robynmct/
Free Gift: https://robynmctague.com/relationshipmeditation
Meet the Host: Jennifer Nagel
Jennifer Nagel is a soul-centered counsellor, international facilitator, and best-selling author who has spent over two decades helping people navigate chaos, reconnect with their inner wisdom, and create meaningful, authentic lives. Deeply rooted in the Satir Model and experiential approaches to transformation, Jennifer brings a grounded presence, sharp insight, and a deep trust in the resources of the human spirit.
Her work spans continents and cultures — she has led programs and trainings in Canada, China, Kenya, Thailand, and Mexico, and currently serves as Director of Trainer Development with the Satir Institute of the Pacific. She is also senior faculty with the Banmen Satir China Management Centre.
Jennifer is the author of Magic in the Muck: Finding Grace in Chaos, co-author of Virginia Satir’s Evolving Legacy, and founder and co-author of the collaborative books Therapists Are Human Too and The Healing Journey to Authenticity, created through book-writing retreats she co-facilitated in Mexico.
Connect with the Host:
Website: www.jennifernagelcounselling.com
https://www.congruentpractice.com/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jennifernagel1/
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/jennifer.nagel.566
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jennifernagelcounselling/
Costa Rica Retreat: Coming Home to Congruence: https://www.congruentpractice.com/costa-rica-retreat
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