In this episode of The Healers Café, Manon Bolliger, FCAH, RBHT (facilitator and retired naturopath with 30+ years of practice) speaks with Dr Jeff Fienman, a veterinarian and molecular biologist, discusses his journey and passion for holistic pet care. He emphasizes the importance of following Dr. Mother Nature's framework for healing, which includes practices like breath meditation and homeopathy. Jeff shares success stories of animals recovering through holistic methods, such as a dog with kidney failure and a cat with hair loss. He advocates for pet parents to learn and apply these methods, aiming to empower them to improve their pets' quality of life.
For the transcript and full story go to: https://www.drmanonbolliger.com/jeff-fienmann
Highlights from today's episode include:
Fixing vs. Healing – Jeff explains true healing follows Dr. Mother Nature's framework, not just reductionistic "fixing" of symptoms.
Vitality & Energy – Jeff confirms every intervention that goes against the body's natural healing lowers vitality, making detox and recovery harder.
Choosing Aligned Care – Manon speaks about Jeff's story of your daughter's dog shows how surgery plus homeopathy can be the right path when it aligns with the animal's vital force and clearly relieves suffering.
ABOUT DR JEFF FIENMANI'm a 1981 and 1985 UPenn graduate and licensed in CA, CT, FL molecular biologist-veterinarian. My current focus is teaching pet parents to use the Happiness Protocol to achieve the best quality of life for their animal companions. The specific actions are based on cellular energy/vitality, individuality, and susceptibility & as described by the exposome. Improvement in animal quality of life, treatment outcomes, and even cancer & Radical Remissions, are seen from regaining homeostasis & balance. Through the online Holistic Actions! online platform I teach the tools of the Vitality and Balance System.
Core purpose/passion: I think my personal medical story is important to tell at this time. Why now? My life and practice are now dedicated to mindfully optimizing quality and length of life. In all species. Holistic medical decision making can help achieve this goal
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ABOUT MANON BOLLIGER, RBHT, FCAH:
As a retired Naturopath 1992-2021, I saw an average of 150 patients per week and have helped people ranging from rural farmers in Nova Scotia to stressed out CEOs in Toronto to tri-athletes here in Vancouver.
My resolve to educate, empower and engage people to take charge of their own health is evident in my best-selling books: 'What Patients Don't Say if Doctors Don't Ask: The Mindful Patient-Doctor Relationship' and 'A Healer in Every Household: Simple Solutions for Stress'. and What if Your Body is Smarter than You Think? I am the Founder & CEO of The Bowen College Inc. which teaches BowenFirst™ Therapy and holds transformational workshops to achieve these goals.
So, when I share with you that LISTENing to Your body is a game changer in the healing process, I am speaking from expertise and direct experience".
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Manon Bolliger: Welcome to the Healers Cafe, the number one
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show for medical practitioners and holistic healers to have
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heart to heart conversations about their day to day lives
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while sharing their expertise for improving your health and
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wellness.
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So, welcome to the Healers Cafe, and today I have with me Jeff
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Fienman and he graduated in 1981 and 1985 from the University of
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Pennsylvania as licensed in molecular biology as a
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veterinarian, so I'm not sure how that goes. I think you would
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be a veterinarian and do molecular biology. You'll have
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to expand on that, but you're licensed to practice in
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California, Connecticut, and Florida, and your current focus
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is teaching pet parents to use the happiness protocol to
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achieve the best quality of life for their animal companions. The
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specific actions are based on cellular energy and vitality,
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individuality, and susceptibility as described by
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the exposome, so I'm gonna stop right there, and I'm gonna get
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you to really like translate what all this means. What got
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you interested in this? It's, you know, I don't know how many
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children just suddenly wake up to this realization. This is
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what I want to be when I grow up, you know. So, why don't you
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share your path with us? And welcome.
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Jeff Fienman: Thank you. Welcome. I appreciate. I'm very
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grateful to be back, and molecular biology part didn't
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come in, but I was a four year old that wanted to be
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veterinarian, and I'm not sure there was no obvious reason to
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me why say it was the innate in me that I was going to be an
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animal doctor, and oh, what I learned through a lot of study
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and a lot of years of practice is that we need to be following
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smartest veterinarian and doctor in the world, and that if we
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don't do that, we can heal, and that it's really there's
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difference between fixing and reductionistic medicine, which
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is what we learn as molecular biologists, or veterinarians, or
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MDs, and healing deeply. Healing the reason, you know, we can
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talk about that distinction, but deeply heals Dr. Mother Nature,
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and Dr. Mother Nature has given us a very specific framework.
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It's been followed for 1000s of years by all the indigenous
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trucks around the world, but when the world is scientific
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medicine, so we don't follow that framework, but our
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medicine, our science is now verifying all the pieces of it.
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For example, I'm looking at James SS, who become the breath,
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as you know, breath is life, breath, prana is life force, and
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there's a reason for that, and you know, change goes into the
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scientific foundations, but also where it is now, and how you
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know art of living issues, and Yale University did a study that
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their breath meditation decreases stress and crews
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student performance. I mean, it's crazy. Yep, we can
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definitely, we can help our animals with the same framework,
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Dr. Mother Nature, because our animals are even closer to it,
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except for what we've
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Manon Bolliger: done.
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Jeff Fienman: Really, everything I teach is about how we can
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follow our animals, how we can follow them into joy, into love,
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into happiness, into balance, which is really the bottom line,
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is we live in that state of dynamic equilibrium, always
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changing and always seeking balance,
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Manon Bolliger: and so did you like what a truck, because you
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could help people, you can, and actually I'm just going to get
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you to put your mic a little bit closer, because I'm not hearing
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everything, I don't know,
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Jeff Fienman: that's that's me, I've got a nerd genre. Of
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genetic disorder and my speech, doing the best I can, but thank
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you for bringing that up, because I'll try harder.
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Manon Bolliger: Well, I think actually just moving it there
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has made it better. It was this
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Jeff Fienman: good, good.
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Manon Bolliger: No, you're good. Now you're clear.
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Jeff Fienman: Speak it louder. Also, yes,
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Manon Bolliger: yeah, that might help. Okay, so, so, yeah, so you
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were, you were attracted by, is it because animals are, are more
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natural, are closer to nature, that like, how did you know?
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Because you have this, you have this gift that you decided to go
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deeper in. How, why is it you decided it is as a veterinarian?
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Like, what was your sort of, you know, I'm gonna do that rather
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than people or elderly, or you know, whatever it is. Like,
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what? What is it that moved you?
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Jeff Fienman: Sure, sure. Let's say that's a question that, with
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that, the four year old me that wanted to become a veterinarian
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and always wanted to be a veterinarian, probably couldn't
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answer correctly, but I could answer it from the point of view
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of a 1982 student at the University of Pennsylvania,
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where they allowed me, because my molecular biology research
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into any of they wanted to keep me as a PhD and doctor or
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whatnot, since they tried to get me out of medical school or vet
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school or law school or engineering, because 10
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households of schools. Why did I choose to go to vet school? I
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never had any desire to be a human doctor, and I guess her
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deep psychological roots for that might be right, it might be
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alignment with animals, but you know, I don't, I don't know the
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answer, but it's ironic because pet work after 40 years has led
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me back to a path that's the pet wellness that works the same for
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people as it does for animals, that brings us into a place of
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joy, love, happiness, and balance,
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Manon Bolliger: right, right, but, but your way through was
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through animal understanding, animal communication, and
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healing, like real healing, not synthetic, whatever. whatever
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pharmaceutical healings, which are not healings, but it's from
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that, and then you, and now the passion is to train the masters
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of these animals, what actually, what can be done, right, because
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you know, like, I live in a province in British Columbia in
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Canada, where technically I'm not allowed to treat my own
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animal, you know, and what a crazy idea, like, you know, it's
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just I find that incredible to, to think that not that I'm a
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vet, but that I can't do what would be so much of healing is,
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is looking after, is feeding, is being with, is you know, being
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present to, and all of that, right. Thank God, they don't
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look at that as treating, so you can get away with a lot, right?
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As long as the drugs, if, if one were to choose to go that way,
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you go through vets, right? But it's interesting, they bother
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making a law like that, you know,
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Jeff Fienman: and I'm sure you know why they made that law, and
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there are lots of laws like that throughout the areas in the US,
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but most of the US freaking treat, and you know, it's the
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safety of the animals, you know, safety of the guardian, you
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know, treating, buying, and treating your own animals. My
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argument is, since in the conventional world, the
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energetic doesn't exist, and homeopathy isn't a drug, and it
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isn't, you know, anything, you can't measure it. I mean, it
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doesn't, it's not there. How is my use of that treating my
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animal, and what veterinary school is going to teach me how
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to do that? So different is what I'm saying.
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Manon Bolliger: Yeah,
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Jeff Fienman: but you're right, it's the rules are very strict
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up there, yeah. Yeah, down here we're most of us in the world
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really are focused on empowering ourselves, so that we can learn
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from the framework of Dr. Mother Nature, which, if in 1800 in the
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US, we had that same rule about treatment than the pioneer women
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and mothers that went west, that were all the doctors, their
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families. I'm not sure what would have happened.
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Manon Bolliger: Yeah, yeah, it's true. Yeah, one
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Jeff Fienman: of the very best-selling books back then was
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called The Home Treatment. Now I know it's the box in the book,
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it was a box of Homeopathic Medicine, said a book had said,
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"Here is the problem, there, go to number 44 and use that. Now,
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was that treatment
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Manon Bolliger: you're asking the question. Yeah,
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Jeff Fienman: I am wondering if that would be considered to be
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treatment.
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Manon Bolliger: Yeah, well, you know, I mean, they have to
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decide whether it's all placebo because there's no, you know,
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substance, or whether it's the act of wanting to help, which is
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treatment, right, like they're trying to find the placebo in it
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one way or another to discredit it, you know, like when they
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misuse homeopathy, what they do is in their studies they give
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everyone the same medication, the same homeopathic remedy, and
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then they say it doesn't work well. Any homeopath would know
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that if it lacks specificity and individuality, it's not going to
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work, because that's not the basis of homeopathy, right? It's
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like, here's like, you know, so I think they haven't decided how
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to mistreat this art sufficiently.
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Jeff Fienman: Yeah, and it's ironic because we're very close.
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That look at the HR at the Homeopathy Research Institute,
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you'll see we're very close to really, you know, getting those
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double blind studies and enough evidence base for homeopathy to
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be a treatment.
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Manon Bolliger: Yeah,
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Jeff Fienman: I just went to second annual conference for
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global homeopathy sponsored by the Regenerative Medicine Clinic
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at the University of Connecticut, and the eminent
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first speaker that actually introduced his father
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regenerative medicine up there, and said, you know, you guys are
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the way of the future,
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Manon Bolliger: so is that what you use amongst other things, or
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in treatment is homeopathy?
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Jeff Fienman: I am a homeopath. I have been a homeopath for this
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for a long time, but, as you may know, you know, they say that
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you need 30 years of study before you really, really learn.
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Manon Bolliger: Oh my gosh, I know, I know, I've been very
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focused on homeopathy myself, you know. And it's, it's
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endless, the depth you can go, and the nuance, and you're, you
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know, it's, it's like being a detective, you know, except that
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the end result, you actually really can create miracles,
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because that's how the body works, you know. It's like,
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Jeff Fienman: exactly,
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Manon Bolliger: yeah, yeah, we
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Jeff Fienman: are, we are learning a fraction, we are
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trying to learn a fraction of what the final force knows
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intuitive, we live for the fact that we're alive is such a big
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miracle.
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Manon Bolliger: Yeah, I
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Jeff Fienman: mean, I mean, a quantum physicist, one of the
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founders of quantum physics, back in 1944 realized this,
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invented what term called negative entropy, which is vital
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force, basically.
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Manon Bolliger: Yeah,
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Jeff Fienman: he wrote a little book called What is Life,
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because you know life exists at that level, that it is such a
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miracle, and there are so many intricacies that we're just
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beginning to ascertain, and yeah, the home of houses, the
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ones that are trying to weed out, you know, just like any
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scientist does when they first learn
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Manon Bolliger: science,
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Jeff Fienman: just like noon did, you know, maybe, maybe, but
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you know, unfortunately. With you know, we have, there's a lot
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of things going on in our society that are affecting, you
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know, the medical paradigm and health in general.
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Manon Bolliger: Yeah, yeah, like that's probably not a fair
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question, because we're still in high censorship times, at least
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out here, so I better not ask intelligent questions, but, but
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have you found that there's a difference in treating animals
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whose owners have followed, you know, just about every theory,
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every pharmaceutical theory out there, like, you know, take your
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shots for this and take your shots for that, and a bit like
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they're doing to infants, you know, whereas maybe it was five
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or six shots, now we're at what, 172 or something, some
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ridiculous, like, you know, I mean, in the human, it's it's
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obvious the impact, but I wonder if it wouldn't be the same if
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you literally poison animals, and then, of course, they get
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sick. I mean, you're it makes the treatment of homeopathy in
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my mind more complex because you're needing to detox, you
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know, literally toxins in your, in the body, as well as work
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with the vital force, which is more than happy to work with
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you. You know,
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Jeff Fienman: no, I'm a simple guy. You know, I like to break
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things down to their simplest. So, I would reframe what you
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just said as a matter of vitality. Hope that we have a
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certain amount of cellular energy. If you want to talk
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about mitochondrial function or molecular mechanisms, we can
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talk about that as well, but and every time we work against our
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body's natural healing ability, we lower its ability to heal. If
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you did that enough, yeah, end up in immune failure. You end up
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with cancer, you end up, you know, in.. yeah. So, yeah, I do
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think to answer your question, yes or no. Yes, I do think there
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is direct relation between
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Manon Bolliger: them. I think we did that very discreetly,
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anyway. Well,
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Jeff Fienman: you know, if you want to, if you want to get into
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cell, you know, this transcription and translation,
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and translation is the process of moving from the DNA into
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protein, it's also the most energy consuming process,
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Manon Bolliger: right? The
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Jeff Fienman: body does that, the vital force has to be in
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control of, because we can't do anything about that, but
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translation, intracellular translation, the way, the way
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that the vital force can do, Mother Nature can, but where we
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do that to detox, because our bodies are detoxing all the
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time, but the more does it detox, more energy uses that
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actually might be a better way of thinking about it, and the
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detox falsified rather than talk about transcription and
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translation detox process is very energy
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Manon Bolliger: consuming. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Jeff Fienman: Wow, why did my cat have surgery back in. March,
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April, and nothing has started regrowing because her body is so
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devitalized, got to build back up to where she has a power, the
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final floor to regrow her hair, she will in time think part, a
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big part of the issue is we want things done quickly, we use the
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interventions we use because they work. They often work
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within a day or two. The final fourth Mother Nature doesn't
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necessarily follow our timeline.
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Manon Bolliger: No, no, exactly. Yeah, yeah, no, I've.. I know
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one, you know, because our family uses homeopathy for just
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about everything, including, you know, my daughter's dogs, and
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that, but we really had a hard time with one of her dogs to to
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nail a remedy that worked, you know, and I mean, there's 1000s
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of them, you know, you can't always get the right one, I
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mean, it, but only the right one really works, you know, so it
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could be just a question of time, but, but she became very
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aware how much the the dog was suffering, and then decided to
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go for a knee surgery, and you know it was quite amazing. Last
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time I saw her, the dog was really not suffering anymore,
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much more at peace, you know, and so it's kind of one of the
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most like, because I'm definitely not pro doing a bunch
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of unnecessary surgeries, and you know, I always think, well,
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a remedy can be found, but there's a point in which you
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have to know your animal, and and I felt that she was very
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connected, she's always been connected, and and she said no,
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no, this time we're gonna do it this way, and and I thought that
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was very, you know, brave, because that's not her life
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experience, you know. Homeopathy has always worked, you know. So
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it's interesting, but it was very strong, like much more of a
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connection and a real knowing that this is what this dog
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needed now, you know, and that she couldn't wait much longer,
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and you know, it's very.. it was actually quite beautiful to
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witness,
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Jeff Fienman: and that is what I called in the book, and in path
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about wellness, and in holistic actions, we learned about
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something called conscious compassionate communication that
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that's your daughter was practicing, that's beautiful.
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Manon Bolliger: Yeah, it's interesting. Yeah, it's like an
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instinct, right? Yeah,
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Jeff Fienman: it's a connection, it's a, it's love. I mean, we're
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talking about apart on powered by love energy,
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Manon Bolliger: right? Right, exactly.
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Jeff Fienman: And the further we get away from that, the harder
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it becomes, like you said, to heal,
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Manon Bolliger: yeah, yeah, yeah. Cuz I am surprised that
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the dog is healing quite well, which is always a sign that it
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was the right thing, you know, like in the sense that if, if it
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doesn't go against the vital force, if it's in flow, then it
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was the right thing, and so now giving a homeopathic remedy just
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finishes it, it just makes it beautiful, whereas it felt like
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it was there, was too much fighting, you know, like the dog
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could not get past that point, and then the surgery became
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useful
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Jeff Fienman: in our online membership and holistic actions
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this year. We're teaching the roadmap to wellness and balance,
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and the way it started in January was how to get the best
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worlds, and how to get the best worlds. What you just rubbed.
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Manon Bolliger: Oh, very interesting. So I was going to
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say, do you have any sort of story or something you want to
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share that would get people interested to take the next
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step, then you know, read your book and find out more.
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Jeff Fienman: Well, I'm being this is thesis. These are cases,
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real cases that'll book dog with one kidney that that wanted
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kidney failure and was dying as a young dog lived and had a
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decade of high performing politics of life, you know,
00:25:19
another dog had a fail, non-regenerative anemia, that
00:25:25
again went on to have a great life. I am my own cat, that at
00:25:29
the surgery and the hair loss that I just had, the shaving had
00:25:35
a near after that thing after that, she had a her crate went
00:25:42
down to a 14, where like people would like to see a 3040 or
00:25:49
thereabouts, and at 14 we figured out she was emaciated,
00:25:53
and you know, having diarrhea all over the house, and blah
00:25:56
blah blah, within two weeks, oh, agile leukemia, according to her
00:26:01
blood work, her white cells were over 50 or up at 50 with
00:26:05
all lymphocytes, and blah. Two weeks of homeopathy, good diet,
00:26:13
fun shine, love body renormalized. I have the lab
00:26:19
work before and after. Two weeks later,
00:26:22
Manon Bolliger: yeah, yeah,
00:26:24
Jeff Fienman: so yeah, because we all have, you know, yeah, and
00:26:28
I'm sorry, but yeah, Rob, appreciate in a dog can be a
00:26:34
tough boy, not the case to handle, especially if it was a
00:26:39
bigger dog,
00:26:40
Manon Bolliger: yeah, it's a bigger dog that loves squirrels,
00:26:45
Jeff Fienman: quality life wise, so often no choice. Yeah, yeah,
00:26:50
Manon Bolliger: interesting. Yeah, well, maybe if you could
00:27:00
hold pure book one more time, so that more, and then so it's
00:27:07
called, okay, to wellness. Oh, Tibet, that's Biggie. I can see
00:27:15
that somehow my eyes pet wellness, perfect. Okay. Well,
00:27:23
thank you. And how do people reach you? And do you, by any
00:27:27
chance, do long distance consultations?
00:27:32
Jeff Fienman: That's a whole nother podcast. I did take it
00:27:38
off with Hong Kong and Sweden, and yes, so, but those are
00:27:43
people in our holistic actions community, so it's a long and
00:27:49
convoluted answer. The best way to reach me is through AJ, which
00:27:53
Manon Bolliger: is
00:27:55
Jeff Fienman: Holistic actions.com and our VIP
00:28:01
membership is closed most the year, but it's opening in a
00:28:05
couple of weeks, and that's a VIP is a mentoring membership.
00:28:10
Manon Bolliger: Okay,
00:28:10
Jeff Fienman: I don't know when your pod drops, but it will be
00:28:13
closed by 20 June.
00:28:17
Manon Bolliger: Okay, you know, I think homeopathic vets are so
00:28:22
hard to come by, you know. There, we had, like, when I
00:28:27
lived in Nova Scotia, there was one, you know, and in Ontario,
00:28:31
there was one. Well, actually, she was in the States, somebody
00:28:35
was close enough, but it's, it's so hard, you know, and not so
00:28:40
much for horses, because I mean they, they can't take anything
00:28:45
else, the way I see it, anyway, but you know, cats and dogs,
00:28:51
it's, yeah, we need more, more people who do that, maybe it'll
00:28:56
change,
00:28:57
Jeff Fienman: that is actually my mission, rest of my life has
00:29:01
changed to that at the level of the pet parent we're doing that
00:29:07
tech and then maybe even the veterinarians
00:29:12
Manon Bolliger: yeah
00:29:13
Jeff Fienman: but it starts right here in my
00:29:16
Manon Bolliger: right of course
00:29:18
Jeff Fienman: that that's all that we can do yeah no
00:29:21
Manon Bolliger: all right well thank you very much for sharing
00:29:24
your information with us, and we'll see what we can do.
00:29:29
Jeff Fienman: All right,
00:29:30
Manon Bolliger: okay. Well,
00:29:31
Jeff Fienman: let's go there and spread the word.
00:29:33
Manon Bolliger: That's right.
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