In this episode of The Healers Café, Manon Bolliger, FCAH, RBHT (facilitator and retired naturopath with 30+ years of practice) speaks with Tasha Darwent about her journey through multiple health issues to finding her light and trusting her own intuition.
For the transcript and full story go to: https://www.drmanonbolliger.com/tasha-darwent
Highlights from today's episode include:
Tasha Darwent And I recognized I wasn't my mind, I wasn't my thoughts, I wasn't this eating disorder, I wasn't my emotions, I wasn't my body, you know. I really recognized that I wasn't all these patterns and these coping mechanisms, you know, and these stories about myself, that they weren't the truth,
Tasha Darwent I think part of my healing process so much is learning, learning to trust my own body, my own intuition, my own sense of things, more and more and more, and that's actually been a huge component of self advocacy.
Manon Bolliger really the attitude of that connection with yourself. And you know, yes, there's expertise, but you're always your second best opinion about yourself, if not your first. You know, I think that's what we have to wake up to and stop making everyone else a God, and not treat ourselves like, you know, at least of light essence.
ABOUT TASHA DARWENT:
I have over 15 years of experience in mental health support, life coaching, and addiction recovery. My career includes a decade of work at a halfway house/transitional living home and another mental health mentoring organization before founding Resilient Grace Mentoring. These roles equipped me with holistic assessment, crisis management, and client-centered care skills, enabling me to blend traditional therapeutic practices with holistic health strategies tailored to each client's needs. My approach is deeply influenced by my personal journey through significant health challenges, including eating disorders, mental health issues, and chronic autoimmune conditions. These experiences taught me the interconnectedness of mind, body, and spirit in healing. Discovering transformative resources like The Power of Now and Medical Medium information guided my recovery and shaped my holistic methodology. At Resilient Grace Mentoring, I combine my professional expertise with personal insights to offer an integrative approach, helping clients address their emotional, mental, physical, and spiritual health and supporting them in achieving lasting transformation.
Core purpose/passion: https://www.resilient-grace.com/mission
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ABOUT MANON BOLLIGER, FCAH, RBHT
As a de-registered (2021) board-certified naturopathic physician & in practice since 1992, I've seen an average of 150 patients per week and have helped people ranging from rural farmers in Nova Scotia to stressed out CEOs in Toronto to tri-athletes here in Vancouver.
My resolve to educate, empower and engage people to take charge of their own health is evident in my best-selling books: 'What Patients Don't Say if Doctors Don't Ask: The Mindful Patient-Doctor Relationship' and 'A Healer in Every Household: Simple Solutions for Stress'. I also teach BowenFirst™ Therapy through and hold transformational workshops to achieve these goals.
So, when I share with you that LISTENING to Your body is a game changer in the healing process, I am speaking from expertise and direct experience".
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Introduction: Welcome to the healers cafe, the number one
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show for medical practitioners and holistic healers to have
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heart to heart conversations about their day to day lives
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while sharing their expertise for improving your health and
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Manon Bolliger: So welcome to the Healers Cafe. And today I
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wellness.
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have with me Tasha Darwent, and we're going to be looking a
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little bit at her whole history and why she came up with a name
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Resilient Grace Mentoring. And as you'll see, everything makes
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sense and starts fitting in. So I think, rather than go into a
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lot of detail, I mean, she has tons of experience in mental
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health support, life coaching, addiction recovery, as well as
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her own journey, which always adds a layer that learning
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cannot achieve. Because when you've gone through it, you've
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gone through it, so I'm really thrilled to to have you here and
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to open up the discussion. So welcome.
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Tasha Darwent: Thank you so much. Thank you so much. So nice
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to be here.
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Manon Bolliger: Well, I'm going to start with a question that I
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ask everybody, and it and it's really just what brought you in
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to some form of healing, some healing arts? Why do you want to
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help people? And I'm asking it in the context of today, when I
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believe that there's going to be massive, significant changes in
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our world, and it'll be hard for people who aren't expecting it
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and who like things to be as they've always known them, but I
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think that with these changes, there's room for creativity,
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there's room for humanity, there's room for healing in
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levels that we've never seen yet. So I kind of want to bring
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the discussion to that level, because a lot of people are
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currently in jobs that likely won't exist, and they've always
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felt that, you know, they have it in them. They're the ones
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that people come to and and then they...but they didn't choose
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that, because there's lots of reasons, right? And kind of what
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made you go in this direction, if you could sort of, and you
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can define what the direction is, because I know there's
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stages.
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Tasha Darwent: Yeah. Yeah, totally, there are stages. And I
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think what first comes to mind is when since a young age, since
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I was about 12-11, or 12 or so, I struggled with pretty intense
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eating disorder issues, both anorexia and bulimia, and so
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that was really like my biggest teacher in my life, for a long
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time, for decades. So that's what was both extremely
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challenging for me, you know, especially as such a young
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person, and anyone that knows anything about eating disorders,
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knows there's, you know, usually a history of trauma, sometimes
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sexual abuse. You know, it's a really, you know, it's a deep
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survival mechanism, you know, to survive and manage things that
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you don't know how to face in another way, right? And so that,
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and then that kind of started to cross over in my later years
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into other addictions, which is pretty common for like, a dual,
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a dual kind of experience, because, you know, eating
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disorders really have an addictive quality, you know. And
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so when you're looking to just kind of escape, and you don't
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have any other tools to meet yourself and to show up for
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yourself, to kind of start to understand what's going on
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inside. Then, right? We just go for maladaptive tools to
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survive. And so I, from a young age, went to various different
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eating disorder recovery facilities, and that's what
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started my journey of healing. And you know, like you said,
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it's very layered. It's very multifaceted, but that's where
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it started.
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Manon Bolliger: So if you can, sort of like, pick one or two or
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maybe three main things in this journey, like, what were the
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awakening moments, and how did you transition to, oh, there's
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another layer to this.
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Tasha Darwent: Totally, yeah. So in my...this was when I was in
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my third treatment center. I was, I mean, I was probably at
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the deepest point of suffering in my life. You know, I had kind
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of gotten just so stuck in my OCD mind. And in anorexia and
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bulimia, and I was malnourished, and I really had a lot of self
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hatred and trauma, and didn't know how to deal with it. And I
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was, you know, in terms of spirituality and self awareness,
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I think like this is when things really cracked open for me and
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in the program we, we had to read the book The Power of Now.
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And I had this, this was probably one of my deepest,
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like, you know, clairvoyant moments, where I felt this like
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what felt like the peace of God within me for the first time
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ever, you know. And I recognized I wasn't my mind, I wasn't my
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thoughts, I wasn't this eating disorder, I wasn't my emotions,
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I wasn't my body, you know. I really recognized that I wasn't
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all these patterns and these coping mechanisms, you know, and
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these stories about myself, that they weren't the truth, but that
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they were very, very deeply conditioned, and they were a
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result in part, of being disconnected from the truth of
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who I really was, you know, of the light of the higher
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consciousness. And so that that specific moment really just it
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was, you know, as they typically go, right on the tails of
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probably some of my most intense suffering and most intense kind
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of forgetting of who I was, and just feeling completely absorbed
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in darkness, you know, and shadow and ego. And as I stayed
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with that process, you know, I read that book, and it kind of
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cracked me open, and it set a stage for this, this deeper
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understanding of who I was and how to work with my mind and my
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emotions and get back into my body. And, you know, it started
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that. It started that,
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Manon Bolliger: Yeah, I mean, it's a wonderful book, and when
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he talks about the pain body and that whole, you know, ability to
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see yourself, in a sense, like a soul, having experience in a
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body, but none of it is yours, you know. But it's, it's a very
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heavy book. I mean, I don't know, do you know about,I'm sure
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you do, but Byron Katie, uh huh, yeah. Okay, so I look at her as
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the one who makes his work easy to understand.
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Tasha Darwent: Sure, sure.
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Manon Bolliger: Yeah, for questions, you know. But when
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you go down that road, it's the same kind of you end up kind of
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realizing that you are, you know, you, your essence, your
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soul, is, is on a journey,
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Tasha Darwent: Yeah, yeah. And it totally, and it just really
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made sense of something I had never been able to
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conceptualize. And I think, you know, the repetition he uses in
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that book, and, like, you know, it's like, yeah, it can kind of
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throw you for a loop, I think, a bit and, and also, I think I
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don't know, for me, I just had such a need to hear what was
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said in that book at the time, and I needed it to, like, be
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pounded into me. So, you know, I was like, I could start to break
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through my own patterning a bit. It served the purpose of that.
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Yeah.
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Manon Bolliger: And it really makes you realize you know how
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that type of interpretive approach is missing in so many
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programs. You know, whether it's addiction or trauma or all kinds
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of programs, that as long as you feel that you are not a light,
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you're going to...your ego is going to blame you for
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everything, and you have to let your ego be right, right? That's
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just how we're made until we realize that it's, it doesn't
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even work in that paradigm. We're asking the wrong
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questions, right? So how could you have the right answers, you
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know? So no, and I think, yeah, work like that is, it's
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essential to breaking all these patterns, you know? So it's
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profound.
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Tasha Darwent: Yeah, I totally agree. And I think that's why it
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was such a turning point for me, because I had never gotten that
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before. You know, I had never gotten that deeper sense of,
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like, wait, I am a soul here on a journey. This is part of my
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healing, like, and, you know, yeah, I totally agree. And
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that's why I like to approach things really holistically, both
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in my life and when I work with clients, because I see because
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I've seen for myself okay for a while, I just thought, Okay. I
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just need to tend to the emotional and the spiritual, and
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that's all I really need to do. Granted, I always took care of
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my body like I always was aware of what I ate and took care of
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it as best I could. But in terms of as I went along in this
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process for a while, you know, I really thought spiritually and
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emotionally, all I have to do is tend to that, because that's the
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highest, right? Like my spirit is the highest. I am a spirit. I
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am divine. So I should be able to just use those powers to
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completely heal everything in my physical form and my emotional
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right and in every element of my life. And that was another
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chapter that I eventually learned more things I needed to
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learn, because that wasn't because the healing the physical
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and having the right tools for that is so important, and the
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emotional and the spiritual and all of it, in my opinion, really
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needs to be a part of the journey. Because if not, then
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we're doing ourself a disservice. Because we are multi
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dimensional beings, right? We have a body like we have to take
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care of it, you know.
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Manon Bolliger: So with your as a body experience, I mean, I'm
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sure that, I mean, the anorexia would have an impact, but also,
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also the autoimmune condition you had, right? So what
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were...what was the learning that you had when you decided,
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Okay, I've got to look after the body?
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Tasha Darwent: Yeah, yeah. I think that you know. I think you
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know, as I mentioned, I knew I needed. I had a hard time taking
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care of my body from a young age because of the eating disorder
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challenges, so I was very hard on my body, you know, and that
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was, that was the way that, you know, my survival patterns kind
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of played out. But as I got into my, you know, kind of 20s or so,
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I started to experience some really intense autoimmune
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symptoms, you know, including, like, I was diagnosed with
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chronic fatigue and fibromyalgia, and then I started
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exhibiting symptoms of celiac, and then, you know, ovarian
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challenges and problems, as well as some really major
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neurological issues with brain fog and cognitive issues that
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were really alarming, you know. And so in about 2009 that's when
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things really kind of got to a head with the symptoms, the
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physical symptoms I was experiencing. And then I kind of
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started a deeper dive into, you know, looking into meeting with
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naturopaths and functional medicine. And I was meeting with
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doctors both on conventional sides of things, as well as
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alternative, and trying all kinds of different diets. And,
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you know, just whatever I could get my hands on that I thought
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could help me get to the root of healing these now very present
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physical symptoms I was experiencing. And, you know, I
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saw, you know, a naturopath that helps me for, I feel like a few
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years to kind of improve some things, some thyroid issues,
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some symptoms. But ultimately, I got sicker and sicker over this
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course of about, it would be about 11 years. So from 2009
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until, you know, about four and a half years ago or so, my
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symptoms were just getting worse. And so I...and during
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this whole time, like I said, I was on that search of like,
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okay, this isn't working. Okay, what's next? Okay, what could be
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the route here? Right? As I kind of just grasping at straws, but
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not knowing what to do and where to find the right information.
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And so in the course of that time, I had numerous bowel
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surgeries, emergency bowel surgeries, because I had a
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history of bowel obstructions at this point, which I think
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clearly also linked back to my earlier days of eating
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challenges and just constantly being in fight or flight and not
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being able to be in rest and digest and have that relaxation
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in my nervous system to allow myself to break down food and
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to, you know, it lowered my immune system over time and
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right. So, you know, I was hospitalized a lot for bowel
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obstructions, and I ended up having to get 18 inches of my
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intestines removed, and I also had, like an ovarian cyst that
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ruptured and wrapped around my fallopian tube, and so I needed
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to get that removed in a pretty emergent way.
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Manon Bolliger: Is it...sorry before you go on to how it
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changed. Yeah, but it's interesting. You know, hearing,
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I mean, obviously my training, I've been 30 years of
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naturopath, doesn't mean that it's the only way to go. I
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promise you that, because my journey has is not about that,
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but that is what I was doing, you know, until a few years
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back. But it's very interesting. It sounds like the the
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approaches of naturopathy were also void of the that whole
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bigger picture. I mean, when you look at allopathy and you know
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the emergency, when you get you have to, or some people say you
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have to take out this or that, or whatever you're definitely
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then, you know, into the Descartes, but cut out pieces
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and throw them out and whatever.
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Tasha Darwent: You don't need them anyway. They say, you know,
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right. Yeah,
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Manon Bolliger: For that to be devoid of, you know, of that
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larger understanding of our journey, you know, is not so
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surprising. But I have, I have found that in my own profession,
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there's very few, maybe the ones who all started ages ago, you
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know, that have held on to this, you know, this natural healing,
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the fact that our body is capable of so much more that
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there's a force within us. You know, it's all different words.
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But, you know, it sounds like many of the new ones that are
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actually practicing now are very mechanical. And, you know, you
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take this and this and that, and you know, it's back to playing
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mini God with natural things, rather than cocktails that they
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use. But it's unfortunately becoming more and more the same
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philosophy, which is not big enough, not healing enough.
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Tasha Darwent: Yeah, yeah. No, I agree. And I think, you know.
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And so I work as a holistic health coach now, and I've, I've
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gotten to know a lot of different some naturopaths
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during my trainings and and I did see one back in the day who
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I first started seeing, around 2009 who actually, he was really
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wonderful, because he did hold this holistic view, truly, of
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who his patients are, as a as a spirit, and look at the multi
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dimensional being, and kind of really, really tend to that in,
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you know, as much as he could in the scope of his practice, I
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felt. And that was like a rare gift I felt like to receive. But
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after that, and with him, it just I...looking back, I just
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realized I didn't get to the root of what was happening.
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Because I think that, I think sometimes that information isn't
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out there, you know, and I think it also really depends on the
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individual in my experience, right? And like now, I have an a
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naturopath. She's a friend of mine, but I, you know, kind of,
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you know, I've trained with her, and we're good friends, and so
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we dialog about, you know, supporting each other and our
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practices and whatnot. And I see the way that she approaches her
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clients, and it's very much like this, this really well rounded
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way to look at things. And I've also had the experience you're
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talking about, I think, more often than not, unfortunately,
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where that hasn't been the way that it's been held. And, you
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know, I didn't get results that way we could say.
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Manon Bolliger: No, no, but I think, I think it's, it's, it's,
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it's a good point to me, you know, because the name of a
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profession is not totality of what the person can bring. And
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then you know to always kind of trust that it may you know when
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you have an instinct that this isn't going anywhere. And it's
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not because you have prejudice against whatever you know, the
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natural thing, homeopathy, or whatever it might be that people
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have issues with. You know, when we get past your own stuff, you
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know, it's then, is this the right door? Because it close it
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quickly, if it's not, and move on, because there are doors,
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there are doors, there's lots of them.
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Tasha Darwent: Yeah. I mean, absolutely, I think I had such a
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hard time walking away as soon as I knew it wasn't well, it was
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hard to discover, because I had so much, I had so much like
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trust and respect in this person, and I think, and I think
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he's a great person, and really very knowledgeable about very
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many things and helped a lot of people. And yet, for me and my
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particular symptoms, I was like hope, holding on, hoping things
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would work or shift when they were actually just getting worse
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for me for various different reasons. And so, yeah, I really,
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I agree with you on that, like that. I think part of my healing
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process so much is learning, learning to trust my own body,
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my own intuition, my own sense of things, more and more and
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more, and that's actually been a huge component of self advocacy.
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Whether it's in a hospital situation or even just just now,
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like I broke my foot, for instance. So I'm here, my foot's
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elevated here, and I could tell that I had a stress fracture,
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right? But I went to the ortho doc, who said, No, you have, you
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know, perineal tendinitis. And I was like, really doesn't feel
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right. And anyway, okay, he's got 18 years experience. Okay,
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maybe I'll just try it out. And I've been walking on it for a
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week in a boot, and it's just been getting worse, and my
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instinct in that moment was get an MRI. It was very strong. It
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was very clear, like, respectfully share this with the
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doctor, like, this is what I would like to do. And I'm just
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reminded today as I got another appointment, and she said, Yeah,
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I think you have a fracture, and you know, we need to get an MRI.
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And I said, Ah, I knew it. I knew it. But the listening to
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ourself and trusting ourself with our own bodies and our own
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healing in every capacity, right, is so critical. And I
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feel like we continue to get to learn these lessons, because
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we're human and we, you know, that's, that's how it is, right?
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Manon Bolliger: It really is a dance, you know, because you
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were talking about that original naturpath Who you respected,
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right? May well have been able to treat a condition with the
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conditions you had, but not in you
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Tasha Darwent: Not in me, exactly.
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Manon Bolliger: Not in you, because there were layers or
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parts that to see something else first, right? So it truly, it's
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a dance. It's like, you know it, and that's why we, I mean, I'm a
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real advocate for self advocacy, you know, because, and we don't
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know until we figure it out eventually, you know, you kind
00:22:29
of learn to trust I had to write this time, and hey, you could be
00:22:35
wrong, right? But it doesn't make them have more rights on
00:22:41
your own body, right? Like.
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Tasha Darwent: Yep, that's it. That's a paradigm. I feel like.
00:22:46
That's a structure that we all have to break.
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Tasha Darwent: You know, because, like, it is our body.
00:23:59
It is our free will, but the paradigm, it's tricky, because
00:24:03
we are sort of told and programmed to look to doctors
00:24:07
when we're in a vulnerable place. And of course, look to
00:24:11
practitioners, look to therapists, look to naturopaths,
00:24:14
look to and that is, obviously, there's really, really wonderful
00:24:19
benefit that can come from that, you know? And it's just like,
00:24:23
all right, how do we consult our guidance all the way through
00:24:27
this experience? And we kind of, we kind of check in with
00:24:30
ourselves at various stages and say, Oh, does does this fit for
00:24:34
me? Let me feel into this. How is this going for me? Right?
00:24:37
Versus just blindly say with disregard to ourselves, like
00:24:42
trusting in someone else, be it a doctor or whomever, without
00:24:47
checking in with ourselves. Because, that's right.
00:24:51
Manon Bolliger: You know, it's critical thinking is missing in
00:24:54
schools now. There is regurgitate so you don't learn
00:24:59
to think. And I think in medicine in general, in healing,
00:25:05
what's missing, too is a lot of the practitioners missing their
00:25:09
own journey of, you know, like now you have all these, you
00:25:15
know, doctors who, for example, gave the, I don't know if I have
00:25:21
to hide the word still.
00:25:23
Tasha Darwent: I don't know either, but I know what you're
00:25:25
talking about.
00:25:26
Manon Bolliger: That CVID thing, and they, you know, you know,
00:25:32
all doctors have had to have an oath do no harm. But you know,
00:25:36
they get they're trying to get off the hook saying, well, it
00:25:40
wasn't my responsibility. I trusted the boards that forced
00:25:46
me to do it, and then the board say, Well, we had no choice. We
00:25:50
trusted the government. And then the government says they trusted
00:25:53
the WHO and they and blah, blah, blah. And it's like nobody's
00:25:58
taking radical self responsibility, right? And, I
00:26:02
think that's the problem it, and this illustrated, and now it's
00:26:07
coming all over the place that you know it was, it was wrong to
00:26:12
begin with. You know, I'm not going to go it was intentionally
00:26:15
wrong. I think, I personally believe so, but...
00:26:18
Tasha Darwent: Me too.
00:26:20
Manon Bolliger: But, yeah, but you know, we can at least say
00:26:23
that none of the things they said were true and they covered
00:26:28
up everything.
00:26:30
Tasha Darwent: Yep.
00:26:30
Manon Bolliger: And if you look at this, and then you look at
00:26:32
you know, other things in medicine, whether it's you know,
00:26:35
cholesterol lie, or whether it's you know, the hormone
00:26:40
replacement lie. Or you start one lie after another, and you
00:26:45
start going, Oh, the diabetes Lie. Like, I mean it, it goes so
00:26:50
deep.
00:26:51
Tasha Darwent: It sure, does.
00:26:53
Manon Bolliger: You know? And why is that? It's not because
00:26:56
these people that go into health are terrible people. It's
00:27:01
indoctrinated, yeah, and we don't know it.
00:27:05
Tasha Darwent: Totally, totally, and I think there's a private,
00:27:08
you know, medical, you know, industries that that are at at
00:27:12
play, you know. And I agree. I think that various doctors I've
00:27:17
seen, you know, are well meaning, are wanting to help
00:27:20
people and again, it depends on the person, but it's like, you
00:27:25
know, they go to school like for like my husband's been healing
00:27:28
from cancer, right, for example, and so, you know, he's pretty
00:27:32
much healed through a holistic lens, but he goes to his
00:27:36
oncologist. And although they're, they're wonderful,
00:27:39
they're lovely people. They study chemo and they study
00:27:42
radiation and they study, you know, surgical procedures to
00:27:45
treat cancer, right? So if we go and that's because that's what's
00:27:50
set up for them in their curriculum when they go to med
00:27:53
school, right? Or, like doctors, study medicine, right? They
00:27:57
don't study nutrition, they don't study herbs, they don't
00:28:01
study lifestyle, you know, they study drugs and you know, so I
00:28:07
think these forces that be that aren't really there to support
00:28:12
us, that actually set these kind of standards in place and this
00:28:17
path in place to have us essentially be, you know, unsure
00:28:22
of where to find the truthful answers, and there's so much
00:28:25
misinformation and right like that. That's kind of the trickle
00:28:29
down effect of how that happens. And then when you go to ask your
00:28:33
oncologist, hey, is IV vitamin C going to help me? And they're
00:28:37
like, there's no clinical studies. And it's like, well,
00:28:40
yes, there are, but also, like, it's not what they have studied,
00:28:44
because it's not intentionally in the material that is put
00:28:47
ahead of them to study.
00:28:48
Manon Bolliger: Exactly. And anyway, we should go more on to
00:28:53
this.
00:28:53
Tasha Darwent: We could go too long on this.
00:28:57
Manon Bolliger: It's really pivotal to everyone wanting to
00:28:59
take care of their health now, yeah, because we need a true,
00:29:04
complete paradigm shift into natural so it's a good start.
00:29:12
But I mean, there's plenty of lethal natural things. It's
00:29:16
really the attitude of that connection with yourself. And
00:29:23
you know, yes, there's expertise, but you're always
00:29:28
your second best opinion about yourself, if not your first. You
00:29:34
know, I think that's what we have to wake up to and stop
00:29:37
making everyone else a God, and not treat ourselves like, you
00:29:41
know, at least of light essence.
00:29:44
Tasha Darwent: I love that so much, and I think we can't get
00:29:47
enough of those reminders. You know, I think we all have. I can
00:29:52
speak for myself, such a, such a heavy amount of programming from
00:29:56
forgetting who we are for so long and being disconnected from
00:29:59
that light essence, and whether you believe in lifetime after
00:30:02
lifetime, or just this lifetime, the pain and suffering we've all
00:30:05
gone through and what we've been told that we're not good enough
00:30:08
and we can't trust ourselves and we're not, you know, goodness,
00:30:12
you know, has a lot of unprogramming to happen for us
00:30:17
to believe that, you know. And I think this healing path involves
00:30:23
many things, but I think that is essentially, you know, at the
00:30:26
core of all of it, because that helps us navigate wisely the
00:30:30
choices that we make and how we use our own free will. And if we
00:30:34
can't trust that, and we don't believe that's there for us,
00:30:36
then ,of course, we're looking outside of ourselves everywhere
00:30:39
we turn or direction.
00:30:42
Manon Bolliger: Yeah, yeah, talking about direction, I
00:30:44
wanted to jump into a part of your your healing journey, and
00:30:51
that was in 2020, I believe you said you came across a Medical
00:30:57
Medium. And I have interviewed a few, you know, three years ago,
00:31:04
four years ago. And, yeah, I haven't recently, but I was just
00:31:08
curious in your journey, because, you know, you've done
00:31:11
the physical, you've done a lot of the psychological, emotional
00:31:16
parts of it. What was the the door that opened, or the door
00:31:22
that came your way to open, like, what was that transition?
00:31:28
Tasha Darwent: Totally, totally. Well, it that too happened in
00:31:31
stages. You know, in 2020. Was when I finally was broken down
00:31:37
and desperate enough to try this information and so this Medical
00:31:43
Medium is Anthony William. He's been a huge presence in
00:31:50
supporting people that are chronically ill. He hears spirit
00:31:55
of compassion that has guided him from age four to support
00:32:02
this population of people that are chronically ill with root
00:32:06
causes of their illness and tools as to how to heal. And so,
00:32:14
you know, this information kind of came to me. It was years
00:32:17
before, and like in passing, I was in the grocery store
00:32:20
checking out with a girl I used to nanny, and I was mentioning
00:32:24
something about the the pain in my stomach, because I had these
00:32:28
reoccurring, intense stomach issues. And she overheard us,
00:32:31
and she said, Well, try celery juice, you know. And I was like,
00:32:36
you know, kind of rolled big, big eye roll with that, you
00:32:39
know, like this person saying, try celery juice. This could
00:32:43
help you. And I think I had gotten so jaded in my journey,
00:32:49
because I had tried everything I could think of, and I had spent
00:32:52
so much time and money, saw so many specialists, and nothing
00:32:56
had helped me so this kind of, you know, off the cuff, like,
00:33:00
you know, try celery juice. I was like, Yeah, right. But it
00:33:04
stuck with me, right? Something stuck with me of like, okay, let
00:33:08
me look into this celery juice. So I started just kind of
00:33:13
looking into that information years ago, and then I I just
00:33:17
kind of left it, I really misinterpreted the information,
00:33:21
and I thought it's all raw vegan, and I tried to eat that
00:33:25
kind of way, and because of my missing bowel, I hadn't healed
00:33:30
enough in my gut to be eating all that raw food. So I did
00:33:33
myself a disservice by not really looking into the
00:33:36
information in a wholehearted way. And then I it took me two
00:33:41
more years, oh yeah, for that to come back into my rotation. And
00:33:47
it was really because I had been hospitalized three times in
00:33:51
2020, which was obviously the year covid hit too. And so it
00:33:55
was just a rough year for everyone, like noone could come
00:33:58
in the hospital. It was just a tough time. And I was just so
00:34:04
desperate. I couldn't eat anything. My neurological issues
00:34:07
were just horrible. The mental health, you know, was really
00:34:12
poor because of all of these chronic issues and so then I and
00:34:19
then I started looking more into Anthony Williams information,
00:34:23
and I started, and then I started doing celery reduce,
00:34:26
because he was saying, celery reduce can help restore the HCL
00:34:29
in your stomach and and can help with the, you know, your
00:34:34
neurotransmitters and the mineral salts, and kill off
00:34:38
pathogens, including viral activity and bacterial activity
00:34:43
that is most often at the root of these mysterious chronic
00:34:49
health issues, as well as toxic heavy metals.
00:34:51
Manon Bolliger: Yeah, parasites.
00:34:53
Tasha Darwent: Yeah. And it sounded really boring to me. I
00:34:58
think that's part of the reason for. Me. It wasn't in my belief
00:35:02
system. It wasn't in my world view. I hadn't been told it by
00:35:05
the bazillions of doctors I had seen. So I was kind of like I
00:35:10
was just desperate enough to say, Well, what the hell you
00:35:13
know? I'll give it a try. I have nothing to lose. I started kind
00:35:18
of following some people on social media, and I got this
00:35:20
book called Cleanse to Heal, which was written by him and his
00:35:25
in the spirit of compassion, and I just got kind of obsessed with
00:35:29
it, because I for the first time ever in my chronic illness
00:35:35
journey, I felt heard, I felt seen, I felt validated. I felt
00:35:41
like, when I read that book, that those words were speaking
00:35:44
to me like that was very divine. And I felt like, Oh, my God,
00:35:49
could this? These are the answers for me. And I just
00:35:55
started doing celery and my stomach and my brain and my
00:36:01
energy and various things started really improving. And I
00:36:05
was sort of like, I had believed in the power of nutrition,
00:36:09
right? But like, I just didn't know which nutrition was right
00:36:12
for me, you know? And I couldn't eat any nutrition. So I was just
00:36:17
kind of like, so I was pretty impressed when this little
00:36:23
simple healing herb, medicinal, you know, herbs started helping
00:36:27
me and and so then I just got more interested. And then I
00:36:32
started doing something he brought to the world, called the
00:36:34
heavy metal detox smoothie. And that started to really help with
00:36:38
my depression, with my brain clarity, with clearing out the
00:36:42
metals from the other places in my body. And then I was just
00:36:46
kind of like, sold, you know, and then I was like, bit by bit,
00:36:49
I started adding more from his books and protocols and you
00:36:56
know, healing is quite a journey, even after you have the
00:37:00
right information. There's years and years as you know, you know
00:37:05
of viral activity, bacterial activity, trauma, stress,
00:37:12
metals, toxins in the body, that you know, stress patterns that
00:37:19
you that I had to really continue to work with while now
00:37:25
bringing in these other healing tools and tinctures and
00:37:29
supplements and foods and herbs and things.
00:37:32
Manon Bolliger: And did you actually get to ever speak with
00:37:38
him? Or it was always indirectly through his teachings.
00:37:42
Tasha Darwent: It was always indirectly. But your timing's
00:37:44
interesting, because he just had an event in LA that I went to a
00:37:48
couple weeks ago, and I didn't he, he's very he's very well
00:37:53
known. So he, you know, didn't get time to speak. There were
00:37:56
1000s of people at this event, but he did sign books, and he
00:38:00
did speak, and I did see him, and it was and I had a moment, a
00:38:04
moment with him, of just telling him thank you. And really, he
00:38:09
looked up and he looked at me right in the eyes, and he said,
00:38:13
It is my honor, you know. And it was really, it was just really
00:38:17
touching, you know. And it was a really beautiful light filled
00:38:22
event with people that all understand each other on a
00:38:27
certain level, because we've all been on this kind of hellish
00:38:30
journey of chronic illness, and we have found healing to some
00:38:36
extent, if not the full extent, right?
00:38:40
Manon Bolliger: Well, wonderful, wonderful story. I mean, in the
00:38:43
end, it is a journey. Like, it's, yeah, could be on another
00:38:49
one, but this is yours.
00:38:52
Tasha Darwent: It is, and it's, I know. I mean, it's like, it is
00:38:55
what it is, right? I'm like, would I have chosen these
00:38:57
things? Like, I don't, I don't know. But in reality, they're
00:39:01
here. They've taught me a ton. Now it's my life's work to
00:39:05
support people with chronic illness and people that have
00:39:09
addiction struggles and a history of trauma and, you know,
00:39:14
right? Had we not gone through whatever we've gone through that
00:39:18
made us want...made you want to be a naturopath, or made me want
00:39:21
to be a mentor at a halfway house and now in my own
00:39:25
business, or with people with chronic illness, like we
00:39:28
wouldn't be of service in the way that we are. And so it's,
00:39:31
there's a depth to it that's really, I think, special. And,
00:39:36
you know, it's a tough path to walk, but, you know, here we
00:39:40
are, and it's what we're doing. So it's...yeah.
00:39:44
Manon Bolliger: Where can people find out more about you and that
00:39:49
we'll be putting all the notes that you've given but verbally
00:39:54
to share that?
00:39:56
Tasha Darwent: Yeah, yeah, absolutely. So like I said, I
00:39:58
have my own practice now, kind of helping the various
00:40:00
populations, you know, with chronic illness, with mental
00:40:05
health challenges, addiction and you know, all specifically,
00:40:10
brain and neurological challenges, as well of digestive
00:40:13
and women's health challenges, but really all of chronic
00:40:17
chronic illness. So people can find me at resilient-grace.com
00:40:23
that's my website, and then I'm also, I've started to be a bit
00:40:26
more on Instagram, and it's just my first and last name, which is
00:40:30
tasha.darwent on IG and it's Natasha Darwin on Facebook and
00:40:37
and I'm also starting a free chronic health challenge support
00:40:42
group. And it's going to be every the first Tuesday of every
00:40:47
month, and it's going to cover a wide range of holistic topics,
00:40:52
all things having to do with, you know, things that impact our
00:40:57
health and chronic health, from, you know, emotional well being,
00:41:01
to community connection, to nutrition, to environmental
00:41:05
toxins and pathogens, to, you know, you name it kind of stuff.
00:41:10
So I want to just have a place where people can come out of
00:41:14
isolation and out of hopelessness and shame, because
00:41:17
that's what happens when people get sick for a long time, and
00:41:21
they can come and feel, feel met with empathy and understanding
00:41:27
and feel safe sharing what's really going on for them, and
00:41:30
hopefully get some tools and resources to implement and
00:41:33
improve their health and well being.
00:41:35
Manon Bolliger: Well, that's wonderful. And thank you. Our
00:41:39
time is like up, it's past up.
00:41:42
Tasha Darwent: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, pleasure, yes. Thank
00:41:47
you.
00:41:48
Manon Bolliger: Your journey I think it always helps and
00:41:51
inspires when people can see what really happens, real
00:41:56
discussions, you know. So thank you for participating.
00:42:00
Tasha Darwent: My pleasure. Yeah, thank you so much for
00:42:02
having me.
00:42:03
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