In this episode of The Healers Café, Manon speaks to Nina, with 18 years of marketing experience, now helps healers grow businesses without burnout.
For the transcript and full story go to: https://www.drmanonbolliger.com/nina-maglic
Highlights from today's episode include:
Nina explains building relationships is essential in both healing and business—trust and authenticity come before selling or offering services, especially for healers.
Nina's personal healing requires letting go of expectations, surrender, and addressing subconscious benefits of holding onto pain; nearly everyone can heal with the right mindset and support.
Manon's authentic connection and word-of-mouth are powerful tools for healing practitioners to grow their practices—genuine help and trust create referrals and sustainable success.
BIO: NINA MAGLIC
With 18 years of experience leading campaigns for global brands like Toyota and Samsung, Nina now helps healers grow purpose-driven businesses without burnout. She blends marketing strategy, business clarity, and energy healing to help clients attract aligned clients and scale with ease. Nina's presence is magnetic, her story deeply relatable, and her mission clear: to help healers thrive so they can help heal the world.
Core purpose/passion: My mission is to help healers thrive—so they can help heal the world. That's why I created Healing Millions, a movement that supports healers in building aligned, sustainable businesses without burnout.
I believe true healing is a layered process that requires support, intuition, and deep inner work. Through my programs, I guide people in releasing generational trauma, limiting beliefs, and fear—so they can step fully into their purpose and grow with peace and clarity.
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ABOUT MANON BOLLIGER:
Dr. Manon is a Naturopathic Doctor, the Founder of Bowen College, an International Speaker, she did a TEDx talk "Your Body is Smarter Than You Think. Why Aren't You Listening?" in Jan 2021, and is the author of Amazon best-selling books "What Patient's Don't Say if Doctors Don't Ask". & "A Healer in Every Household" For more great information to go to her weekly blog: http://bowencollege.com/blog.
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Introduction: Welcome to the Healers Cafe, the number one
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show for medical practitioners and holistic healers to have
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heart to heart conversations about their day to day lives
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while sharing their expertise for improving your health and
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wellness you
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Manon Bolliger: so welcome to the Healers Cafe, and today I
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have with me Nina maglich, and she has 18 years of experience
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leading campaigns for global brands like Toyota and Samsung,
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But now she helps healers grow purpose driven businesses
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without burnout. So I'm we just briefly met before pressing the
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start button and and you're actually from Austria, so one of
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the very first questions I asked you is, how different is
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marketing in Europe and Austria, then then in the States? Now
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we're in Canada here, but and you said you started, and then
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we press the go button, so why don't we take it from there? And
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I'll ask you about your passion in a minute. Yeah.
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Nina Maglic: Hello everybody. Thank you, Manon, for having me
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on your show. It's my honor pleasure to be here. Yeah, I
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think marketing is completely different in Europe than in in
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the States. In the States, everything is really like, buy
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now, buy now, buy now. You have to buy now. In I will say,
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especially in Austria, you first need to build relationships.
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Really starts with relationships. All build deals
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are really done at restaurants, and you really need to build a
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relationship first before you even can enter the into deal.
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That's number one. The second thing is that you, you really
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cannot talk all about buy now, buy now, buy now. This is what
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Europeans usually do, not like. It's just, let's build a
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relationship. Let's get let's get to know each other, and then
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we can, like, do deals. And I will say this is how it's done.
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Yeah, no. Bit different. Like, you know, it's first like,
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please don't sell me anything. If I don't ask you anything
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about the product, yeah, and they will usually, like, there's
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a huge distance between. Like, you know, when I was at the
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state in states, it was like, you go to the supermarket,
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wherever you go, people come to you say, Hey, how are you today?
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And they start talking to you. In Europe, people don't like to
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be bothered the supermarkets. Like, if they have a question,
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they will come to you and ask you,
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Manon Bolliger: yeah, It's true. Even there, it's very
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different, right? Yes. So, so how? Let's say you have a book
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in the background. You're healing millions. Is that? Is
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that your book? I can't quite read
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Nina Maglic: That's my book. Okay? Have it here as well.
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Like, okay.
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Manon Bolliger: Yeah. So how, how do your practitioners get
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the word out, if they like, if they're a local practice, I can
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get it. You know, you go to the market, you see each other, you
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you know, people go by. They might ask you what it is you do.
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They may want to ask questions. So I can see that. But if
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they're online, or are they not online? Like, how do, how do you
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grow a business like that.
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Nina Maglic: It really depends. Some healers do not want to have
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an online business, which is completely okay. My husband and
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I build an advertising agency. We started from scratch in 2009
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and what we did, we did like a direct marketing, sending like
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mails to directly to the companies, and this is what we
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do with healers as well. If they are local healers want to target
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local audience, they can always like, send direct mails and like
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also work with post office to send mails. That's one of the
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fastest way that they can grow locally. If they want to go
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online, it really depends what kind of strategy they want to
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use. I know that everybody talks about social media, that
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everybody loves social media, but I'm all about networking on
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social, like online, and start building relationships with
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people and then sell things. And I always teach people before you
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even ask anything, provide as much value as possible, so
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people understand what you do and how you can help them,
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because you cannot just come and say, Hey, energy healing is
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amazing. You need this, and everybody can benefit from that.
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That's awesome, but not everybody's ready to do healing
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immediately. People need time, and people especially with
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healing, we work with people who have a trauma, and we. Really
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challenging lives, they will not open so easily to if they don't
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know you, right, right? You need to really build trust first. And
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it really depends what clients want. And I always recommend
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building relationship podcasting, having your own
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podcast. That's the, really, the best way to really get to know
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audience. And, yeah, yeah, people also know what you do and
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how we can help them.
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Manon Bolliger: You mean, like, if you have a podcast, people
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get to hear what you think and etc. So they, they have a way of
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getting to know you, yeah.
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Nina Maglic: But it's also not only podcasting, guesting or
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somebody else's podcast, is really building relationship
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with people. It's all about that. I always say like, you
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never know who's going to become your client. Just you know, open
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your heart, open like your arms. Welcome people in your life and
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start communicating with each other. And I also teach people
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how to build strategic partnerships with each other so
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they can grow their businesses much faster by referring each
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other clients.
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Manon Bolliger: Yeah, yeah. I think that's definitely
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underestimated. I think it works. I agree it's a that's a
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very powerful and it makes a lot of sense, you know, like when I
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when I started or not started, but at one point in my practice,
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because where I started, I was totally isolated. There was
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nobody there. So it was a destination place. People found
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out through word of mouth kind of thing. But later, when I
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moved, there was actually other other businesses, you know. And
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so I went to meet the physiotherapist. I went, you
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know, meet all the people on the street, the chiropractors, and,
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you know, I explained what I did which was different. I found out
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how they practice and what they you know, so that if, if,
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because you can't help everybody all the time. So, you know,
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sometimes it's like, okay, well, if this didn't work, or maybe
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this is better for this moment of your therapeutic journey,
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it's good to have, you know, referrals. So I think that's
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super important, and that's very tangible, right? It's something
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you it's easy to do. It makes total sense. So what do you say
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to the practitioners that don't like social media. Don't like to
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go to, you know, meetings and spend their 30 seconds saying
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who they are and what they do and who they serve, like that,
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what they call match working. And they just like, oh, they'll
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find me. They'll find me.
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Nina Maglic: I would say nobody can hire a ghost if they don't
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know you exist, nobody can hire you. So you need to put yourself
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out there, at least to tell people what you do. I know it
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can be very scary to put yourself on the internet and
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start talking to people, but you know, I always find it very
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interesting. People are not scared to go to shopping mall
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and spend the whole day there and meet 1000s of people, but
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they are so afraid to go online, post something on social media
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and 1015, people are going to see that. I think very often, we
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stand ourselves in a way. Oh, my God. What if the whole world
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sees me? But if, what? If somebody sees you that really
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needs you, and you can change someone's life. So I think, like
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the biggest problem is that people think too much about
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themselves, not about people they want to serve. If, because,
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if you focus on a person you're serving and what they really
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need, your your fear becomes irrelevant, right?
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Manon Bolliger: Yeah, no, no, I agree with you there. But what
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do you find? What platforms do you find useful, or is it age
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appropriate? Is it, what do you what do you recommend,
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typically, to people
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Nina Maglic: I love YouTube. I love you too. And the reason why
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I love YouTube, you don't have to have a lot of views, you
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don't have to have a lot of subscribers, you just need to
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start creating content, and people in your circle can
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understand what you're doing, how you can help them. So you
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really need to share your message. If nobody knows about
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you, nobody can hire you, and very often, you already have so
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many potential customers in your circles that but they don't even
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know that you're doing healing right now. They have no clue.
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But when you start sharing your story, why you started the
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journey, what pain you experienced? How did you
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overcome that pain? What specific tools did you use and
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what worked for you, what didn't work for you, what works very
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well for your clients, for what type of clients work, which tool
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and how you can help them. This is where people become very
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curious, and all of a sudden, instead of you going to them and
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reaching out to clients, they start reaching out to you, say,
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Hey, can you explain what you meant on your video last. Week,
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I'm very curious. So people start asking you, because all of
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a sudden you start talking about the problems they have, and all
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of a sudden they realize, oh my god, I can reach out to you to
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help me, because I already know you. You are in my circle. I
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already know like and trust you. So let's go one step further.
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And I always say to people, my youtube channel was very small.
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I had 46 subscribers at that time. And what happened?
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Somebody who found me on youtube bought something from me, and we
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didn't even talk, but they knew me really well, because they
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watched my videos. And all of a sudden people started becoming
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into my world. My YouTube channel is still very small. I
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only have 2000 subscribers. It's not really big, but people are
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coming into my world. People are seeing my videos. They're coming
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into my courses memberships, and they start asking me how we can
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work together, collaborate together. You know, you don't
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have to have bigger a big audience like small audience,
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when then they're built, right? And you focus on really serving
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people and serving your ideal client, they will find you. And
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the best thing is they can watch all the content. 24/7, your
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content doesn't get sick, doesn't take vacation, it's
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always there, working for you,
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Manon Bolliger: yeah, yeah. So YouTube, and that means not
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advertising in YouTube, just having a channel.
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Nina Maglic: I started really organically on YouTube, yeah,
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and what I also love to do, I have my LinkedIn newsletter as
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well, and and I do it because I love writing, and I love
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sharing. I love highlighting people who do amazing things in
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their life, and this is where some, some people really get, I
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will say wrong, because they have really scarcity mindset to
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share the audience with other people. And I think that's not
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really true, because I work with five, six healers all the time.
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You know, even healers need healing. Sure, more than enough
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for everybody. 8 billion people in this world, there's more than
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enough for everybody, and we cannot really help everybody.
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Exactly.
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Manon Bolliger: No, I do think there is a scarcity mentality
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around you know, I know when it's funny, because I teach
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Bowen therapy, and I don't know if you're familiar with that
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method, but I was teaching it in a place where there were a lot
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of chiropractors and and it was funny, because they're saying,
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Well, you know, how are you going to succeed, you know? And
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I said, well, by by word of mouth, and because it works, you
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know? And they were saying, but there's no because they have a
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lot of marketing training, right? So, you know, they book
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you in for 30 visits. They have all these things, right? Like,
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I'm I'm not exaggerating, I'm generalizing, okay? Because, of
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course, there are practitioners who don't do it the way they're
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taught, or whatever, what's recommended by the majority of
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schools. But it's funny, they had such a an idea, and they
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said, well, but then if they get fully better than, how do you,
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how do you make money? I said, well, by getting more people,
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because they refer when they get results, you know. And it was
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just like to see the mindset, you know that, yeah, how it
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interferes, you know, with your like, for me, it didn't
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interfere, because I was like, okay, I can do this, you know,
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and I can help people and whatever, but I could see that
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they, they were hesitating on learning the methodology because
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they didn't know how to adjust the marketing. What do you tell
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people when you get better?
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Nina Maglic: I would just say, like, try it. You know exactly.
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You know what, like, you know, even if you don't like it, okay,
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you have one more experience like in your life, and that's
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perfectly fine, but I always say, try it, because it's hard
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for you to grow business if you're not willing to learn and
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try
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Manon Bolliger: no for sure, and and also, if you're stuck on
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certain marketing strategies. And that's the thing, is, you
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have to be flexible, right? Like, you know, sometimes it
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just, yeah, it's not going to be the same way, you know. So,
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because I've had several talks, I mean, I did, I did train, you
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know, several chiropractors, you know, who were like, Oh, my
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goodness, this is great. I use it 95% of the time and all that.
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But our biggest discussion was not the methodology, it was the
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marketing, because it had to completely shift how they tell
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people to see them, right? It was just a completely other way
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of looking at it, you know?
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Nina Maglic: So it depends what you do. I teach people different
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healing tools, but I always say to my clients, you really do not
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have to explain every single step you're doing with your
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clients, because people just want a results. What tools you
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use? To help them. It's really not important just get them
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results if they want to ask you, because most people, they will
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if they even if they ask you, that you can start explaining.
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Most people will not understand all the things that we're doing
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in the background. But if they ask, you can always explain. But
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I always say to people like, this is what we are going to do.
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I love put to put people in meditation, then they are a
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little bit busy with their mind. They're following the meditation
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so I can do my healing service, because I noticed when, if you
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start explaining every single step to your client and how you
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are really using every single tool and why it matters, people
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get lost. Really good loss they get they get immediately in
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their heads. But okay, let's relax. Everything's going to be
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fine. I will walk you through this process. I explained the
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process, but I don't explain every single tool I use,
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Manon Bolliger: no, no, and that makes sense. It's, it's, it's
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not needed, it's in. It interferes, actually, with just
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receiving, right? Yeah, it occupies the mind, which we're
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trying to relax. So What? What? What got you kind of passionate
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in this area and and are you yourself a healer or a
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practitioner of
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Nina Maglic: sorts? Yes, actually, I never thought I'm
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going to be healer, because I was doing marketing my whole
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life. I've have been doing marketing, and when my husband
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and I set up an advertising agency 2009 we were working with
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all these big names and companies, and all of a sudden I
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became very sick, and I was trying to find solution to my
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pain. I spent 18 months going to the doctors, asking them and
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begging them to help me. We did all blood tests, all body scans,
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everything, but we couldn't find the reason why I have a pain,
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and I had really bad cramps. Every time when I had cramp, I
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was paralyzed from pain for one hour, and I had five to eight
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cramps per day, and nobody knew why. Nothing showed why I had a
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pain. And on one specific day, I was very, very desperate, and I
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didn't know what to do. I had pain. I wanted to help myself. I
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scheduled a call with an energy healer in LA what
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Nina Maglic: sessions that became pain free. My whole life
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changed. So, okay, I want to know what you know. I never,
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ever want to beg for help. Can you teach me? And this is how my
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journey started. I really never thought my whole life that I'm
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going to be a healer. I started really using these tools to help
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myself. And all of a sudden, people so much transformation.
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They start reaching out to me. They referred me friends and
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family members, and it was just like that. I was booked weeks in
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advance, and I didn't like I really didn't realize this is a
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business. I was just like, let me help people. Let me help
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people. But then when I remember the day when my husband asked me
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when I have a time to do to go on vacation with him, it's like,
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for one day, like, go some like, over weekend. Like, I said,
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like, in five weeks, what do you mean? In five weeks we can go
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this weekend? I said, No, no, no, I have so many appointments
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I cannot do this. Like, oh. Then I realized, okay, this is not
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really hobby anymore. And I started just learning to to help
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myself. And I started helping my class, my fellow colleagues and
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friends. I was like, Hey, this is what is working in my healing
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business. Try it. And they start trying, and they start applying,
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they start getting results. And I was doing this three years for
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for free. I just wanted to help them. So, like, we all benefit.
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Help other people. Like, let's do it. And after three years, I
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said to my friends, and if you know somebody who might be
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interested in business and marketing, I'm happy to help
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them. Am, and this starts referring me friends and family
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members again, because I already got them.
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Results, right, right?
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Really, chain reaction. Everything really changed
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overnight.
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Manon Bolliger: Wow, and that. So that's really unusual,
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because you got, well, not from your message. It's completely
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consistent. It's relationships first, but it's interesting that
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you're getting referral for marketing when what you
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connected with them was healing. I mean, it's that's quite
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incredible. But if that's the truth of relationships, right,
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you know, yeah,
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Nina Maglic: it is like we were working together, learning
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together. We started referring each other clients. This is how
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we start, okay, I have a client for you. I think she would be an
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amazing fit for for you. And they start referring me clients.
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This is how we started, like, there's more than enough for
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everybody. And, man, I was building my business. Said,
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Look, this is what I'm doing. This is what this what brings me
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results. I even did a course, business course for healers for
00:21:03
free to teach them how to do business. I was like, I said,
00:21:07
like, look, there are so many of you. I cannot, like, I don't
00:21:10
have time teach you all one on one. Let's, let's create course.
00:21:12
I invited everybody for free. I said, this is the course. Let me
00:21:16
help you get results. They got results, and then it's really,
00:21:21
like everybody and like, it was really amazing, wow.
00:21:27
Manon Bolliger: I mean, that really is the, I would say, the
00:21:30
new world. But it is. It really is of that nature, of, you know,
00:21:35
just trust in what you do, be authentic, come from the heart,
00:21:39
help. And, you know, the universe opens. It really is
00:21:45
like that. Well, quite, quite the story. I'm now curious, what
00:21:49
was the healing modality of energy that you used, or that
00:21:53
you learned?
00:21:55
Nina Maglic: I learned a lot of them. First, of course, we
00:21:58
started getting to know our body is better, really being attuned
00:22:03
in our intuition stuff, really paying attention where we have a
00:22:06
pain. I don't have a specific mentality, because the person
00:22:09
that taught me she she taught me how to use my intuition to get
00:22:13
to know my body better, to understand what's happening in
00:22:15
my body. And after that, I start learning different like sacred
00:22:20
geometries, like channeling energies. I learned from, like I
00:22:25
was so obsessed with that I learned from three different
00:22:29
like healers. I was like, Okay, can you teach me more? Can you
00:22:31
teach me more? Because once you get into this world,
00:22:39
Manon Bolliger: when you have your own pain, and it goes away
00:22:42
in two sessions. I mean, that's that's huge,
00:22:46
Nina Maglic: and it's basically all these matters, what they are
00:22:48
teaching almost always the same, like, where do you have a pain?
00:22:52
Let's go back, try to figure out the event that is connected to
00:22:57
the pain, and just go there. Allow yourself to release
00:23:00
emotions, like they use different tools, but basically
00:23:03
they're all doing the same,
00:23:07
Manon Bolliger: yeah, so the stuckness of energy in the so
00:23:13
that's the root kind of of, so you don't care what it's called,
00:23:17
or often they don't have a name for it in them, you know, so
00:23:21
called conventional medical system, right? Sometimes they
00:23:24
have a diagnosis, but otherwise it's like, you know, everything
00:23:28
looks good. You're healthy. So in a sense, it's all in your
00:23:32
mind. In a sense, it's really all in your in your field, in
00:23:36
your auric field, and you're in your unresolved being, right,
00:23:42
you know, but, yeah, so, so focusing in on the the the event
00:23:50
or the emotions that haven't So it's not necessarily
00:23:56
unconscious. It's unanalysed, unseen or no attention to
00:24:05
bypassed.
00:24:06
Nina Maglic: Basically, that's true, like I just I know, in my
00:24:12
case, I think the biggest problem we have, why we cannot
00:24:18
really heal is because we hold on to so much on things that
00:24:22
happened in the past, and we don't want to let it go. It
00:24:26
doesn't matter what it is. It's just like, I remember one during
00:24:30
one of these sessions, one of my healers said to me, you need to
00:24:34
let it go. And I was like, Oh, I cannot let it go. If I let it
00:24:38
go, I will not be me. It was like, Oh, my God, I can go back
00:24:44
to times that let go of everything what you can because
00:24:47
you know, the more you let go, the more you can become, yeah,
00:24:51
that's beautiful part of the healing journey. You can choose
00:24:55
who you want to be, right?
00:24:58
Manon Bolliger: So. So how many years ago was that that you let
00:25:02
go of this pain that you had for several months? It sounds like
00:25:05
six years now. Six years. Yeah, so if you were to talk to your
00:25:12
old self, who didn't, who didn't know, or was just starting to
00:25:16
know, what's the main kind of lesson or main realization,
00:25:23
because, you know, I mean, I deal with pain. A lot of people
00:25:26
have pain. I have, you know, my little magic tools that I count
00:25:30
on, that I see work, but it's not necessarily for everyone and
00:25:35
everyone. You know, touch is not always the way people like it.
00:25:39
You know that sometimes they'd rather talk. Sometimes they'd
00:25:43
rather have something more distant, actually, you know? So
00:25:48
it's interesting. We don't all heal the same way, but so when
00:25:51
you go back and you go, and this is so obviously on Zoom or
00:25:55
something, right, long distance.
00:25:57
Nina Maglic: Actually, she called me on the phone, on the
00:26:00
phone. Oh, okay, okay,
00:26:02
Manon Bolliger: so still you're, you're still, you know, a whole
00:26:05
continent away, right? So what? What was it that, that you
00:26:11
realized from like now, looking at
00:26:15
Nina Maglic: it, we are more connected than we think. That's
00:26:20
the number one, because the moment she called me, she was in
00:26:23
LA, I was in Vienna, and she called me and she said she knew
00:26:28
exactly what I was thinking. Oh, how does she know that? You
00:26:33
know, the moment I start thinking about something, she
00:26:35
knew that it's like, how does she know that she's another
00:26:38
continent? Like, it's not possible. But she was so
00:26:42
accurate. I was like, Oh my God, you know so much. That's the
00:26:46
number one. We are all connected. We don't have to do
00:26:49
it in a person like you can be anywhere in the world we are. We
00:26:53
can really tune into energy, no matter where you are and
00:26:59
and what I would say to my younger self, don't take life
00:27:04
too serious,
00:27:06
and that's the biggest problem. We take life too serious. We
00:27:09
want to follow certain rules. We want to make it perfect. We want
00:27:12
to achieve certain things. So sometimes we just need to let go
00:27:16
of all expectations we have in our life, and the moment when
00:27:20
you let go of the expectations who you need to become image of
00:27:27
others that they have about you, and all the pressure that we
00:27:32
have like what we need to do and how we should live our life,
00:27:37
this is the moment when it Feels like rebirth. I would just call
00:27:42
it like that is really liberation, right?
00:27:46
Manon Bolliger: And you felt that the healing itself was
00:27:52
letting go of these constraints, basically these constructions
00:27:58
that we create, yes, yeah, yeah, interesting, yeah. I It's I
00:28:06
would, because I've interviewed many people who say it's the
00:28:09
unconscious, and I know it. I mean the unconscious is there to
00:28:14
keep safe and whatever, repeat routines and habits and all of
00:28:18
that. But I think there is role for consciousness to come in, in
00:28:23
the healing process and and that you can liberate. That's why
00:28:28
people have spontaneous healing. I mean, it's, of course, it's
00:28:33
possible, because it just takes a moment to to collapse. You
00:28:39
know, in a sense, the timeline or whatever you want to whatever
00:28:41
your belief systems are, right? But, you know, that's very
00:28:45
interesting, and you
00:28:46
Nina Maglic: I always say, Sorry for interruption. I always say,
00:28:49
the moment you choose heal, this is the moment you really heal.
00:28:57
Healing. I was so done. I said, like I cannot live one more day
00:29:02
with this pain. I will do no matter what help me. And I said,
00:29:07
like, I'm so ready, I'm so ready. I'm so done. I will do
00:29:11
whatever you say I need to do. I will let go of anything. I just
00:29:14
want to be me, and I don't want to have pain. And I think the
00:29:18
moment I chose to be free from my pain, that's the moment that
00:29:22
my healing be gone. Okay?
00:29:26
Manon Bolliger: That's interesting, because, I mean,
00:29:31
there's got to be levels of choice, right? Because people
00:29:36
come to you as a therapist or whatever, because they choose,
00:29:41
on some level that they don't want this pain so, and that
00:29:47
doesn't necessarily mean it goes away, right? I think you're
00:29:51
talking about a deeper choice. But and what I'm picking up,
00:29:56
it's, it's almost, it's not giving up. Up, but it's
00:30:00
surrender. Is that? Does that resonate?
00:30:04
Nina Maglic: Yes, actually, that's the right word,
00:30:06
surrender. I was so like I chose to heal, but I surrender like I
00:30:12
would do no matter what, just help me. And that's the moment.
00:30:17
That's the right word. And you know, very often I will say
00:30:22
that, like, it must be benefit for us subconsciously, of
00:30:27
course, that to stay in that pain and that really, we need to
00:30:32
sometimes, really explore, what is the benefit? Right, right?
00:30:38
And that's the biggest thing that people like, we don't know,
00:30:42
like we were never taught about that, that there is a benefit to
00:30:45
stay in pain, but subconsciously there is. And you really need to
00:30:49
discover what you like, what the benefit is. And the moment when
00:30:53
you see that, when you there is a moment when you have a ha
00:30:56
moment, it's like, Okay, I'm done.
00:30:58
Manon Bolliger: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, it would be
00:31:03
concurrent with most of my experience. You know, in life,
00:31:07
there's some people i i cannot see what the benefit is in their
00:31:13
subconscious, just like I don't get it, you know. But I mean,
00:31:19
I've had, I've had in some of the books I've written, too, I
00:31:23
have case studies of evident benefits that they will not let
00:31:29
go of, and they will keep the suffering because it actually
00:31:35
serves, you know, pathologically, But this created
00:31:40
benefit that's not really a benefit. It looks like it
00:31:44
superficially, right? So. So do you think everybody can heal?
00:31:52
Nina Maglic: I think 98% of people can heal. 2% are just
00:31:57
some diseases that really cannot be cured yet, but in that
00:32:02
moment, I have to say, like in the moment when I was going
00:32:05
through 18 months of discovering what's happening with me, I
00:32:10
refused to believe there is no solution to a pain that was
00:32:15
something like I said like that, let me keep finding maybe you
00:32:18
don't Know what. Maybe they don't know what the solution is,
00:32:22
but it doesn't mean it doesn't exist, right? Searching, let me
00:32:27
keep I will do no matter what.
00:32:29
Manon Bolliger: Yeah, yeah, no, I think you have to have that,
00:32:33
that absolute willpower to to continue. So it's really not
00:32:40
giving up, you know, because then you're into victimhood. You
00:32:46
You have to stay the active creator of your life, of your
00:32:50
destiny, you know, yeah, even if you don't feel like you have
00:32:54
control over it, it's like you've got to at least be an
00:32:57
actor in it. Once you give up, then, yeah, I always
00:33:03
Nina Maglic: say, like, there must be solution. It's
00:33:06
impossible that somebody didn't find the solution. You just need
00:33:09
to find solution that works for you.
00:33:12
Manon Bolliger: Yeah, yeah, very interesting. Well, I think we
00:33:16
could easily do a follow up discussion next time earlier, so
00:33:20
it's not so late for you. But anyway, thank you very much for
00:33:25
spending time sharing your knowledge and your skills.
00:33:30
Nina Maglic: Thank you so much for having me on a on your
00:33:32
podcast. Thank you so much. It's very interesting. I have this,
00:33:40
this beautiful community. They help each other. I just come and
00:33:44
they really need me, because this is what I do. I do business
00:33:48
and healing combined, right? You know, you cannot help healers if
00:33:52
they have so much fear being visible. Oh, my God. What what
00:33:56
people will say about me. Let me help you with fear. Let me help
00:33:59
you with judgment. Sometimes I just need to stop business and
00:34:03
do healing. Yeah, it's true I do, but I don't do as much as I
00:34:11
used to do. I used to do a lot,
00:34:13
Manon Bolliger: a lot, yeah, yeah, yeah, I get it,
00:34:19
Nina Maglic: but I want to ask you, if you want to be on my
00:34:21
podcast. I would love to sure my podcast is called Healing
00:34:26
millions.
00:34:27
Manon Bolliger: Yeah. Okay, you sure? Yeah, I've not, you know,
00:34:32
I did this because I wanted to meet people that were, you know,
00:34:37
interesting, and this is my social hour. It's really, you
00:34:45
know, because I'm not a social person. I don't like going to
00:34:48
blah, blah, blah, and I'm very family oriented. And I like, you
00:34:53
know, I mean, now my kids are all grown up, but, but I started
00:34:57
this just because I wanted to hear fascinating. Stories and
00:35:00
meet people, you know, so that's kind of it. And, you know, I
00:35:03
have a little commercial in between saying what I do, that's
00:35:07
it, but it's not monetized. It's just my passion so amazing.
00:35:13
Nina Maglic: Let's talk about that. I think this is what I do.
00:35:16
I have this podcast called Healing minutes, where I really
00:35:18
feature people. It's still like I started this, especially
00:35:22
podcast, 19 weeks ago. Wow. Okay, I have amazing people in
00:35:28
my community, and nobody knows about them. Okay, let me help
00:35:32
you. Get this at least, and get let me help you with one episode
00:35:37
so you can share with your friends and family members, what
00:35:39
clients, what you do and how we can help them. So I really make
00:35:43
it tailored, me specific to you and what you do and highlight
00:35:47
your expertise. And I also write LinkedIn newsletter, which I
00:35:50
love, and then I highlight your story there and post on YouTube
00:35:54
and Spotify and as as you like, I just want to meet new people.
00:36:00
And I always say, like, you know, this is something that I
00:36:03
really love. I love building connections all around the
00:36:07
world. And I always say to people like, not everybody's
00:36:10
going to be your client, and that's fine, but you will get
00:36:13
new friends. Amazing. I love that, you know. And maybe they
00:36:18
will refer somebody else. Maybe they will not who cares? You
00:36:21
have a new friends?
00:36:22
Manon Bolliger: Yeah, yeah. I think that's where I'm at, you
00:36:28
know, just Yeah, and I've met some extraordinary people, which
00:36:32
is fantastic, right?
00:36:33
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