Cheryl Meyer, known as Cheryl M Health Muse, shared her journey from a successful jewelry designer to a health advocate after experiencing severe pain and being misdiagnosed by conventional doctors. She discovered functional medicine, which led her to eliminate toxins from her life, adopt an organic diet, and address her food sensitivities. Over five years, she eliminated toxins from her environment, improved her diet, and managed her stress through yoga and breathing exercises. Cheryl emphasized the importance of self-advocacy, continuous research, and holistic approaches in achieving health and wellness.
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Highlights from today's episode include:
- Cheryl explains You are the magic pill—your lifestyle creates your wellness.
- Cheryl explains how to become an "army of one" and systematically remove toxins from your life.
- Manon speaks about allopathic medicine today is mostly disease management, not true healing.
Cheryl Meyer, otherwise known as Cheryl M Health Muse, once a successful solopreneur in the jewelry design business. With a 7 figure business, faced a daunting wake-up call one morning when she couldn't get out of bed due to excruciating pain. Misdiagnosed and brushed off by conventional medicine, she embarked on a journey to discover the root cause herself. Unveiling her autoimmune diseases;Fibromyalgia. Hashimotos, IBS and TYPE II Diabetes, Cheryl realized her relentless work ethic and unhealthy lifestyle were the culprits. Refusing to accept this as her fate, she dove into research, overhauled her diet, and pursued education in holistic health—resulting in an incredible transformation. Cheryl has reversed her Fibromyalgia, IBS, her Type II Diabetes, her Fatty liver and lost 80 pounds without dieting. Now 77 she feels better than she did in her 50s.
Today, Cheryl is a beacon of hope for those battling chronic illnesses. Autoimmune Diseases, Heart Disease, Liver Disease, Cancer, Dementia and more. She was recently certified by the American Brain Council to teach their course on brain health.
With her superpower of finding holistic solutions, she empowers clients to reclaim their health and vitality. She encourages everyone to take back their power to pursue their wellness. Through books, classes, coaching, podcasts and more, Cheryl inspires others to embrace the journey to wellness, proving that nothing is impossible when it comes to feeling great and living well. She talks 20 lifestyle habits to lasting wellness. Cheryl is now a PSYCH-K facilitator and can help you get fast results by leading you to change your subconscious programing.
Cheryl is currently working on modules to encourage self-love as the foundation to finding wellness, your perfect mate, and finding the success you seek in business and life. She has done extensive research on manifestation Her husband, a retired techy is creating an AI site with all her research and writings called ASK THE HEALTH MUSE. She is a huge advocate of eating the organic rainbow of fruits and vegetables as the route to eating from the" farmacy" to a life of lasting wellness.
Core purpose/passion: I am known as the Rainbow Queen because I advocate with starting to eat the organic rainbow from a source as close to you as possible. I also regularly talk where the toxins are lurking and how to purge them from your life. Radical Self-love my latest book, expands self care to self-love and then all aspects of ones life, since it was the key reason I got so ill. I am currently writing classes on the Liver, the lymph and fascia system, and then the gut. They will all be up on my You Tube channel, my website and possibly my Issuu page.
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As a retired Naturopath 1992-2021, I saw an average of 150 patients per week and have helped people ranging from rural farmers in Nova Scotia to stressed out CEOs in Toronto to tri-athletes here in Vancouver.
My resolve to educate, empower and engage people to take charge of their own health is evident in my best-selling books: 'What Patients Don't Say if Doctors Don't Ask: The Mindful Patient-Doctor Relationship' and 'A Healer in Every Household: Simple Solutions for Stress'. and What if Your Body is Smarter than You Think? I am the Founder & CEO of The Bowen College Inc. which teaches BowenFirst™ Therapy and holds transformational workshops to achieve these goals.
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Manon Bolliger: Welcome to the Healers Cafe, the #1 show for
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medical practitioners and holistic healers to have heart
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to heart conversations about their day to day lives while
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sharing their expertise for improving your health and
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wellness.
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So, welcome to the Healers Cafe, and today I have Cheryl Meyer,
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and she's otherwise known as Cheryl M Health Muse, and once
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upon a time she was a successful solopreneur in the jewelry
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design business and making seven figure business, and one day she
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woke up with excruciating pain. So, if this wasn't a common
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story, you, you would think that you know this happens, and this
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is so rare, and of course, you found a solution. You went to
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the doctor, you took some pills, and they worked, right?
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Cheryl Meyer: I went to the doctor, she ran five rounds of
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testing. Guess what, there's nothing wrong with you, that's
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Vodafone. I can't function, I can't mold, I hurt.
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Manon Bolliger: Yeah. Okay. And then it's in your head. We
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haven't met yet, but I.. this is basically.. I'm.. I'm looking at
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the other stories I've heard. It's all in your head. Are you
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suffering from depression? Are you sure you don't want to take
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sort of antidepressants? Right.
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Cheryl Meyer: Yep.
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Manon Bolliger: Part of the story. Okay. Yeah. And then she
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Cheryl Meyer: did say, I'll give you steroids because you say you
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hurt, I'll give you steroids for that. I'm not taking steroids if
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I don't need them, I'm not never taking steroids. Period.
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Manon Bolliger: No, and that's because you had inflammation,
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and that's the magic drug for inflammation in our, you know,
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very developed allopathic model of, let's say, it's not patient
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care, even I think it's patient stagnation, it's, it's disease
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management, actually, that is
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Cheryl Meyer: what it is,
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Manon Bolliger: which is really a good name for it, because all
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they do is manage the disease, and you know, inadvertently by
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some, because I think there are some innocent people in that
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field, but everyone who's woken up feels like a charlatan, or
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like they're peddling drugs, or like something has changed, and
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I have quite a few MD friends, and they're getting very tired
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of their role, and it didn't used to be that way. I think
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there was a little bit more. I'm not saying that, you know, it
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wasn't always the intent of it, but it's, you know, from the
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Rockefeller Foundation, and everything, and
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Cheryl Meyer: there's reasons, you know, their number one
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source of information is their pharmaceutical rep,
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Manon Bolliger: correct. Yeah, yeah, you know, you put two and
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two together, and you go, "Gee, what does this have to do with
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healing and health, right? Okay, so let's start with what
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happened to you, because obviously something changed, and
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what were you. why don't you go through the whole story, and
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from the point of view that somebody could follow, going,
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gee, that's a good thing, I maybe I should do that next, or
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you know, how did you go, how did you deal with this?
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Cheryl Meyer: Okay, well, let me tell you, first, my body was
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talking to me long before I paid attention, I have a joke that my
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when the universe wants me to get something first, it slaps me
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on the shoulder, then I get the NCIS slap, and then finally the
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two by four came comes down. So I waited for the two by four to
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come down. I was so focused on keeping my business going, I was
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sort of like, shush, I don't want to hear you, and I want
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everyone to learn to listen to their body, because their body
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is very smart. So that's my first tip to everybody. But I
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woke up one morning and everything hurt. Do I have the
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flu? What the heck's going on here? And after five days it
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hadn't gotten better, so I went to the doctor, started getting
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tests run, five rounds of tests, nothing wrong with me, baloney.
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I knew something was wrong, but I said to her, I'm going to dig
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into this and I'm going to find out what's wrong with me. So
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you'll be back. I said, no, I probably won't. And I was really
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lucky because I tripped into what's now known as the
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functional medical community, and this was 14 years ago, at
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the time they were all fairly new as functional doctors, and
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they were running all kinds of symposiums, and I watched 19 of
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them with multiple doctors, and I made notes, I started writing
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down what their threads were, and the first thing that caught
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my. Attention was they all either got sick themselves and
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couldn't help themselves, or they had a loved one get sick
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that they couldn't help, so they ended up going for the
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additional functional medical training, which means they
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looked at the whole body and not just at a body part that was
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causing trouble, and so that's where I started, and I was
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lucky, but I wrote down notes like toxic load. What was toxic
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load about the fact that I should be eating organic real
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food, which resonated with me. That was logical. So I started
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looking into what does that mean, and how could I do that,
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and as I learned things, I started to implement. I started
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researching all the toxins in my life, and I was appalled,
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because they were everywhere. They were in my food, they were
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in the way my food was grown, they were in the processed food,
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everything that went in or on or near my body was toxic, and
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things like the cosmetic industry functions by monitoring
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itself, and they're not doing a good job at it. The first thing
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I looked up on a website called ewg.org was my face makeup, and
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it was an expensive French brand that was a nine out of 10 on
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toxicity, so literally I had been poisoning myself right
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through my skin, and I got angry. Why was my government
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allowing me to be poisoned? And I mentioned that because I can't
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tell you how many people along the course of my journey said my
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government wouldn't allow me to get poisoned. Oh yeah, it is
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every day, and so I decided I found a man named Howard Lyman,
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who wants us all to be an army of one and own it ourselves, and
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and search for what we need, and I decided I was going to be an
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army of one, so I dug it, I found a woman named Dr. Deanna
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Minnich, who believes in eating the rainbow of all the different
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colors of organic food, because each color has different gifts
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for the body. So I started going to farmers markets, buying my
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food as close to the farm as I could, because things like
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spinach lose 30% of their potency within three days. I
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wanted to get stuff into my body, on my body, and around my
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environment, that would stop poisoning me, so that I could. I
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was determined I was going to get well, and I never doubted
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that I would find what I needed to reverse what was going on
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with my body. So that's important too, because as I work
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with clients now, I have learned that if they don't believe it's
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possible, then it's not going to happen. I'm working with someone
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with MS right now whose doctor keeps telling him his disease is
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going to progress.
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Manon Bolliger: Yeah, and I
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Cheryl Meyer: said, "Okay, your tour this week is to have a
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conversation with him to stop saying that, because as long as
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he says it and you believe it, guess what, that's exactly
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what's going to happen. You have to believe that you are the
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captain of your ship, you are the creator, and you can change
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the direction of your health if you start to change your
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environment. One of the people I started following was Dr. Bruce
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Lipton, who discovered and formed the theory of epigenetics
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that our genetics have nothing to do with what we get, it has
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to do with our body and what the environment is like that
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genetics is sitting in. So, if you're constantly putting in
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toxins, which are poison. Guess what, you're going to get sick
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if you're constantly eating the ultra-processed diet, which is
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fake food. You're not giving your body anything to run on, so
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guess what, you're going to get sick. So you have to change your
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environment and start doing things that give your body the
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opportunity to return back to balance that really became the
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key. It didn't happen overnight. It took me five years to
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eliminate every toxin I could find in my air, in my perfume,
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in the cleaning materials that I had, in my food, in my pots and
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pans, and the things that I was cooking with, and what I was
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storing my food in, in the water coming out of my tap. It took me
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five years to get rid of all of that poison, and so I'll tell
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you, it's not easy. You have to have an intention, you have to
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stay focused. I did it systematically, category by
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category, but in five years I started to feel pretty darn good
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again, and I went on Medicare and found my own functional
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doctor, and even that wasn't easy. There is a site called
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ifm.org where you can put in your zip code and they pop up,
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but none of them at the time took any kind of insurance. Yes,
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and so I ended up driving two hours to the person who I
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thought could help me, and it was worth it, because she took
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me to the next level. She knew things that I hadn't found, like
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that I had all kinds of food sensitivities, and it ended up I
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had 19 of them, and by eliminating those, wow, it was
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instant pain relief, and I stopped having flares every
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other day. So it's like finding your jigsaw puzzles, but you
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stay so focused and so convinced that you're going to find all
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your puzzle pieces, you just keep going until you start
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feeling great, and that's the goal. I had felt lousy for
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years, and thought that was the way I was supposed to feel,
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because by the time I got sick, I was already 63 Well, today I'm
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77 and I feel way better than I did in my 40s and my 50s. So
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it's not age, it has to do with how I live my life and what I've
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done with my environment to create a life that's clean that
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supports me and it is so worth it
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Manon Bolliger: right now. How did you get that like deep
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knowing that you're going to find a solution and you just
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need to keep going.
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Cheryl Meyer: Well, in a lot of ways, I was lucky because I grew
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up with two parents whose favorite thing to say to me was
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I could do anything I set my mind to.
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Manon Bolliger: Okay, okay. Both
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Cheryl Meyer: of my parents got unusual diseases. My father got
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a very rare epilepsy, and he was a scientist, so he was
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constantly researching because he wanted to help himself with
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that, and then my mother got something called multiple system
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atrophy, which is related to Parkinson's, but not
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Parkinson's, so nobody in the heck out there in the doctor
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field had a clue what to do with her, and so I started digging
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into medical journals and finding things myself, so when I
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would go to medical appointments with them, I would raise
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questions. Have you thought of this? Could we try that? And the
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response in the beginning from their doctors was, Who's the
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doctor here? And my response was, Who's the daughter? My
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mother's doctor, I said, How many patients do you have? He
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said, several 100. I said, Well, I only have one mother, so could
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we do this together, because I can concentrate on things that
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might help her that you're not going to find, because you have
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200 of her, and she was supposed to only live two years, and she
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lived 10, and when she died, he called me and said, I wish
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everybody had a daughter like you, he said, because our
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success was because we did do it together.
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Manon Bolliger: Yeah,
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Cheryl Meyer: so I knew that if I dug into whatever was going on
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with my body, which was not even given a diagnosis,
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Manon Bolliger: yeah,
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Cheryl Meyer: that I was going to find it, and I was determined
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that I was going to find it. Ended up, I had fibromyalgia,
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Hashimotos, IBS. I had type two diabetes that my doctor had
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missed, and it was bad. My A 1c was 7.7 I mean it was high. And
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so, and then as I started working with my functional
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doctor, I also discovered by accident that I had a fatty
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liver,
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Manon Bolliger: right?
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Cheryl Meyer: So, and that wasn't a surprise, since I had
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the diabetes, and I had eaten poorly for 63 years of my life.
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So that became a concentration to learn everything I could
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learn about the liver, which is the workhorse of the body. So,
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if your liver isn't healthy, it impacts everything else going on
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in your body, and it actually ends up, it's the number one
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cause of heart disease.
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Cheryl Meyer: so you need to follow the threads that. You
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discover as you research, and you need to take it seriously
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that each of these little gems is going to get you one step
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closer to feeling great, and that's what I did. I am now 14
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years away from starting this journey. I still have some
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puzzle pieces I'm looking for. Somebody who follows me on
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Facebook said, 'Are you really as healthy as you say you are? I
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feel great every day. I pop out of bed happy as heck, because
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the food I eat turns on all my happiness. I am as healthy as I
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tell you I am, but that doesn't, as it is, and you never stop
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looking for your pieces,
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Manon Bolliger: right? Right now, so how in your search,
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right? So I understand the background, where you knew that
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researching was something that could be done, right? So that's
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a lot of people just think that somehow doctors know everything,
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and they don't research, and you know part of it is true, they,
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they don't research, because a lot of times now you know it's
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like they're overwhelmed by crazy, silly hours where you
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don't get to know your patient or client at all, and and then
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they have these, you know, reps that tell them, well, this will
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fix that and that, and so it's like, it's like, okay, you know
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what, I'll just use the cookbook rather than use my brain and go
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deeper, and so I think a lot of the art of really asking
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questions and getting to the root of things has been lost,
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you know. Not everyone.
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Cheryl Meyer: I actually read that from when something new
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gets discovered. It's discovered in whatever it's minute field is
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in, and it can take as long as 15 years before it will get into
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the general medical journal that your doctor might read it, so
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your thing is you want to find it early. If there's something
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new that you want to pull the thread on and question, and I've
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had formed partnerships with every doctor I have had, and I
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will go to anybody who can help me. I have a naturopath, I have
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a functional doctor. I have a regular doctor, and they all
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know I'm in charge of my health. You are my partner, you are my
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advisor, and we're going to take care of my health together. And
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I currently have a conventionally trained doctor
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who lives holistically, so he gets it, and his theory is, you
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do the least invasive first, and then, if you have to, then you
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can go to taking that serious medication, or doing that
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surgery, or whatever it is, but we always start with the least
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invasive, and you need to find those doctors that you believe
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will support your body in finding holistic solutions, and
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it doesn't mean I don't take drugs, because the drug can
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mitigate whatever is going on in my body until I can change my
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lifestyle enough to start to cure it, and the doctor knows if
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I'm going to take a drug, I'm going to research it, I'm going
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to know what the downside is, because they all come with
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gifts, both good and bad, and so if I start to get better, then
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he's going to help me wean off of that medication, because I'm
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not taking it forever, and one of the first things I had to
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learn is there is no magic pill, you are the magic pill, people
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my age think they're going to find the magic pill, and they're
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going to feel better and be able to live out life. It doesn't
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exist. You are the magic pill, and your lifestyle changes are
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the magic that your body can convert to wellness. So, you
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have to own it. You have to question, you have to research,
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and there's probably some bad information out there, as well
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as good information. So, I found doctors that I trusted, and
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that's where I would start as I researched each subject, but you
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can do it, and then you go to whoever your care taker is, and
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you have a robust conversation with them, so that you're sure
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you stay on track for getting the best possible solution for
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your body, no, not in your body, he doesn't know how you feel,
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Manon Bolliger: no, no, exactly, so, so the, the research part I
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get, the, the, the drive that you're going to get on top of
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this, and that, well, no, that, not that one, sorry, because I
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think that you were an entrepreneur before, so I know
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where drive comes from, and
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Cheryl Meyer: I'm a personality, because my stress level was so
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out of control, I shot up and used up all my cortisol and was
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borderline Addison's disease when I got sick, that was one of
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the. First places I had to dig in and get under control.
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Manon Bolliger: Okay, so actually that's interesting.
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Let's go there for one moment. How did you choose to get that
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under control out of all the technologies out there and
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things? What did you do?
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Cheryl Meyer: Well, I decided I was going to take a yoga class.
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Manon Bolliger: Okay,
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Cheryl Meyer: but I don't like yoga where they're going to tie
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me into a knot.
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Manon Bolliger: Okay,
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Cheryl Meyer: so I looked until I found a local class, which was
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by a company called Body and Brain, and they're all over the
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country, and they do a towel yoga that's a combination of
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some yoga, some isometric, some general wellness, mind over
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body. It was a combination of everything, and I have to add to
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it. While I was looking for this yoga class, I had also been in a
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long-term relationship with a man who wasn't going to change
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for me. He was not going to let me dictate how he was going to
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eat. He was not going to adopt any healthy habits, and so after
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many years we had to break, which was just all additional
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stress, which didn't help the situation. So I found my yoga
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class, and then I dug in what were other solutions, and I
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found a man who started integrative medicine, called Dr.
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Andrew Weil, and he had come up at that point, which was 15
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years ago. Now, there are all kinds of breathing exercises,
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but I do his breathing exercise, which takes four minutes to go
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through the rounds, and it releases all the tension in your
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nervous system, and lets you take the top off your stress, so
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you can function again.
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