From Pain to Purpose: Cheryl M Health Muse & Manon on The Healers Café
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From Pain to Purpose: Cheryl M Health Muse & Manon on The Healers Café

Cheryl Meyer, also known as Cheryl M Health Muse, shared her journey from a successful jewelry designer to a health advocate after experiencing excruciating pain and being misdiagnosed by conventional doctors. She discovered functional medicine and spent five years eliminating toxins from her life, including food sensitivities and environmental pollutants. Cheryl emphasized the importance of listening to one's body, adopting a clean lifestyle, and being proactive in health management.

For the transcript and full story go to: https://www.drmanonbolliger.com/cheryl-meyer

Highlights from today's episode include:

Cheryl says "You are the magic pill" – lasting healing comes from your own lifestyle changes, not from a single medication.

Cheryl explains systematic toxin removal – over five years she methodically reduced toxins (food, products, environment) and listened to her body's signals to regain health.

Manon talks about medicine as 'disease management' – you sharply highlight how conventional care often manages symptoms instead of truly caring for patients or seeking root causes.

ABOUT CHERYL MEYER

Cheryl Meyer, otherwise known as Cheryl M Health Muse, once a successful solopreneur in the jewelry design business. With a 7 figure business, faced a daunting wake-up call one morning when she couldn't get out of bed due to excruciating pain. Misdiagnosed and brushed off by conventional medicine, she embarked on a journey to discover the root cause herself. Unveiling her autoimmune diseases;Fibromyalgia. Hashimotos, IBS and TYPE II Diabetes, Cheryl realized her relentless work ethic and unhealthy lifestyle were the culprits. Refusing to accept this as her fate, she dove into research, overhauled her diet, and pursued education in holistic health—resulting in an incredible transformation. Cheryl has reversed her Fibromyalgia, IBS, her Type II Diabetes, her Fatty liver and lost 80 pounds without dieting. Now 77 she feels better than she did in her 50s.

Today, Cheryl is a beacon of hope for those battling chronic illnesses. Autoimmune Diseases, Heart Disease, Liver Disease, Cancer, Dementia and more. She was recently certified by the American Brain Council to teach their course on brain health.

With her superpower of finding holistic solutions, she empowers clients to reclaim their health and vitality. She encourages everyone to take back their power to pursue their wellness. Through books, classes, coaching, podcasts and more, Cheryl inspires others to embrace the journey to wellness, proving that nothing is impossible when it comes to feeling great and living well. She talks 20 lifestyle habits to lasting wellness. Cheryl is now a PSYCH-K facilitator and can help you get fast results by leading you to change your subconscious programing.

Cheryl is currently working on modules to encourage self-love as the foundation to finding wellness, your perfect mate, and finding the success you seek in business and life. She has done extensive research on manifestation Her husband, a retired techy is creating an AI site with all her research and writings called ASK THE HEALTH MUSE. She is a huge advocate of eating the organic rainbow of fruits and vegetables as the route to eating from the" farmacy" to a life of lasting wellness.

Core purpose/passion: I am known as the Rainbow Queen because I advocate with starting to eat the organic rainbow from a source as close to you as possible. I also regularly talk where the toxins are lurking and how to purge them from your life. Radical Self-love my latest book, expands self care to self-love and then all aspects of ones life, since it was the key reason I got so ill. I am currently writing classes on the Liver, the lymph and fascia system, and then the gut. They will all be up on my You Tube channel, my website and possibly my Issuu page.

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ABOUT MANON BOLLIGER, RBHT, FCAH:

As a retired Naturopath 1992-2021, I saw an average of 150 patients per week and have helped people ranging from rural farmers in Nova Scotia to stressed out CEOs in Toronto to tri-athletes here in Vancouver.

My resolve to educate, empower and engage people to take charge of their own health is evident in my best-selling books: 'What Patients Don't Say if Doctors Don't Ask: The Mindful Patient-Doctor Relationship' and 'A Healer in Every Household: Simple Solutions for Stress'. and What if Your Body is Smarter than You Think? I am the Founder & CEO of The Bowen College Inc. which teaches BowenFirst™ Therapy and holds transformational workshops to achieve these goals.

So, when I share with you that LISTENing to Your body is a game changer in the healing process, I am speaking from expertise and direct experience".

Mission: A Healer in Every Household!

For more great information to go to her weekly blog: http://bowencollege.com/blog.

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Manon Bolliger: Welcome to the Healers Cafe, the #1 show for

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medical practitioners and holistic healers to have heart

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to heart conversations about their day to day lives while

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sharing their expertise for improving your health and

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wellness.

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So, welcome to the Healers Cafe, and today I have Cheryl Meyer,

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and she's otherwise known as Cheryl M Health Muse, and once

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upon a time she was a successful solopreneur in the jewelry

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design business and making seven figure business, and one day she

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woke up with excruciating pain. So, if this wasn't a common

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story, you, you would think that you know this happens, and this

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is so rare. And, of course, you found a solution. You went to

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the doctor, you took some pills, and they worked right.

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Cheryl Meyer: I went to the doctor. She ran five rounds of

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testing. Guess what? There's nothing wrong with you. That's

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blood of Christ. I can't function. I can't move. I hurt?

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Manon Bolliger: Yeah. Okay. And then it's in your head. We

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haven't met yet, but I.. this is basically.. I'm.. I'm looking at

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the other stories I've heard. It's all in your head. Are you

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suffering from depression? Are you sure you don't want to take

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sort of antidepressants? Right.

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Cheryl Meyer: Yep.

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Manon Bolliger: Part of the story. Okay, yeah. And then she

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Cheryl Meyer: did say, "I'll give you steroids because you

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say you hurt. I'll give you steroids for that. I'm not

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taking steroids if I don't need them. I'm not never taking

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steroids. Period. No.

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Manon Bolliger: And that's because you had inflammation,

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and that's the magic drug for inflammation in our, you know,

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very developed allopathic model of let's say it's not patient

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care, even I think it's patient stagnation, it's it's disease

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management, actually, that is

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Cheryl Meyer: what it is,

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Manon Bolliger: which is really a good name for it, because all

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they do is manage the disease, and you know, inadvertently by

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some, because I think there are some innocent people in that

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field, but everyone who's woken up feels like a charlatan, or

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like they're peddling drugs, or like something has changed, and

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I have quite a few MD friends, and they're getting very tired

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of their role, and it didn't used to be that way. I think

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there was a little bit more. I'm not saying that, you know, it

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wasn't always the intent of it, but it's, you know, from the

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Rockefeller Foundation, and everything, and

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Cheryl Meyer: there's reasons, you know their number one source

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of information is their pharmaceutical rep,

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Manon Bolliger: correct? Yeah, yeah. And you know, you put two

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and two together and you go, gee, what does this have to do

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with healing and health, right? Okay, so let's start with what

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happened to you, because obviously something changed, and

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what were you. why don't you go through the whole story, and

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from the point of view that somebody could follow, going,

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'Gee, that's a good thing. I maybe I should do that next, or,

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you know, how did you go? How did you deal with this?

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Cheryl Meyer: Okay, well, let me tell you, first, my body was

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talking to me long before I paid attention. I have a joke that my

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when the universe wants somebody to get something first, it slaps

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me on the shoulder, then I get the NCIS slap, and then finally

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the two by four came comes down. So I waited for the two by four

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to come down. I was so focused on keeping my business going, I

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was sort of like, shush, I don't want to hear you, and I want

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everyone to learn to listen to their body, because their body

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is very smart. So that's my first tip to everybody. But I

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woke up one morning and everything hurt. Do I have the

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flu? What the heck's going on here? And after five days it

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hadn't gotten better, so I went to the doctor, started getting

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tests run, five rounds of tests, nothing wrong with me, baloney.

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I knew something was wrong, but I said to her, I'm going to dig

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into this and I'm going to find out what's wrong with me. So

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you'll be back. I said, no, I probably won't. And I was really

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lucky because I tripped into what's now known as the

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functional medical community, and this was 14 years ago at the

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time. They were all fairly new as functional doctors, and they

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were running all kinds of symposiums, and I watched 19 of

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them with multiple doctors, and I made notes. I started writing

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down what their threads were, and the first thing that caught.

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My attention was they all either got sick themselves and couldn't

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help themselves or they had a loved one get sick that they

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couldn't help, so they ended up going for the additional

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functional medical training, which means they looked at the

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whole body and not just at a body part that was causing

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trouble, and so that's where I started, and I was lucky, but I

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wrote down notes like toxic load. What was toxic load about

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the fact that I should be eating organic, real food, which

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resonated with me. That was logical. So I started looking

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into what does that mean, and how could I do that? And as I

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learned things, I started to implement. I started researching

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all the toxins in my life, and I was appalled because they were

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everywhere. They were in my food, they were in the way my

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food was grown, they were in the processed food, everything that

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went in or on or near my body was toxic, and things like the

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cosmetic industry functions by monitoring itself, and they're

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not doing a good job at it. The first thing I looked up on a

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website called ewg.org was my face makeup, and it was an

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expensive French brand that was a nine out of 10 on toxicity, so

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literally I had been poisoning myself right through my skin,

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and I got angry. Why was my government allowing me to be

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poisoned? And I mentioned that because I can't tell you how

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many people along the course of my journey said my government

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wouldn't allow me to get poisoned. It is every day, and

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so I decided I found a man named Howard Lyman who wants us all to

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be an army of one and own it ourselves and search for what we

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need, and I decided I was going to be an army of one, so I dug

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it. I found a woman named Dr. Deanna Minnich who believes in

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eating the rainbow of all the different colors of organic

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food, because each color has different gifts for the body. So

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I started going to farmers markets, buying my food as close

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to the farm as I could, because things like spinach lose 30% of

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their potency within three days. I wanted to get stuff into my

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body, on my body, and around my environment that would stop

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poisoning me, so that I could. I was determined I was going to

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get well, and I never doubted that I would find what I needed

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to reverse what was going on with my body. So that's

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important too, because as I work with clients now, I have learned

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that if they don't believe it's possible, then it's not going to

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happen. I'm working with someone with MS right now whose doctor

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keeps telling him his disease is going to progress.

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Manon Bolliger: Yeah, and I

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Cheryl Meyer: said, "Okay, your tour this week is to have a

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conversation with him to stop saying that, because as long as

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he says it and you believe it, guess what, that's exactly

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what's going to happen. You have to believe that you are the

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captain of your ship, you are the creator, and you can change

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the direction of your health if you start to change your

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environment. One of the people I started following was Dr. Bruce

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Lipton, who discovered and formed the theory of epigenetics

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that our genetics have nothing to do with what we get, it has

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to do with our body and what the environment is like that

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genetics is sitting in. So, if you're constantly putting in

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toxins, which are poison. Guess what, you're going to get sick

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if you're constantly eating the ultra-processed diet, which is

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fake food. You're not giving your body anything to run on, so

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guess what, you're going to get sick. So you have to change your

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environment and start doing things that give your body the

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opportunity to return back to balance that really became the

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key. It didn't happen overnight. It took me five years to

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eliminate every toxin I could find in my air, in my perfume,

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in the cleaning materials that I had, in my food, in my pots and

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pans, and the things that I was cooking with, and what I was

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storing my food in, in the water coming out of my tap. It took me

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five years to get rid of all of that poison, and so I'll tell

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you, it's not easy. You have to have an intention. You have to

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stay focused. I did it systematically, category by

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category, but in five years I started to feel pretty darn good

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again, and I went on Medicare and found my own functional

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doctor, and even that wasn't easy. There is a site called

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ifm.org where you can put in your zip code and they pop up,

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but none of them at the time took any kind of insurance.

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Parents, and so I ended up driving two hours to the person

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who I thought could help me, and it was worth it, because she

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took me to the next level. She knew things that I hadn't found,

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like that I had all kinds of food sensitivities, and it ended

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up I had 19 of them, and by eliminating those, wow, it was

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instant pain relief, and I stopped having flares every

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other day. So it's like finding your jigsaw puzzles, but you

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stay so focused and so convinced that you're going to find all

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your puzzle pieces, you just keep going until you start

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feeling great, and that's the goal. I had felt lousy for

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years, and thought that was the way I was supposed to feel,

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because by the time I got sick, I was already 63 Well, today I'm

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77 and I feel way better than I did in my 40s and my 50s. So,

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it's not age, it has to do with how I live my life and what I've

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done with my environment to create a life that's clean that

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supports me and it is so worth

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knowing that you're going to find a solution and you just

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need to keep going.

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Cheryl Meyer: Well, in a lot of ways I was lucky because I grew

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up with two parents whose favorite thing to say to me was

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I could do anything I set my mind to.

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Manon Bolliger: Okay, okay. Both

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Cheryl Meyer: of my parents got unusual diseases. My father got

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a very rare epilepsy, and he was a scientist, so he was

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constantly researching because he wanted to help himself with

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that. And then my mother got something called multiple system

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atrophy, which is related to Parkinson's, but not

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Parkinson's, so nobody in the heck out there in the doctor

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field had a clue what to do with her and so I started digging

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into medical journals and finding things myself, so when I

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would go to medical appointments with them, I would raise

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questions, have you thought of this, could we try that, and the

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response in the beginning from their doctors was, Who's the

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doctor here, and my response was, Who's the daughter? My

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mother's doctor, I said, How many patients do you have? He

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said, several 100. I said, Well, I only have one mother, so could

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we do this together, because I can concentrate on things that

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might help her that you're not going to find, because you have

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200 of her, and she was supposed to only live two years and she

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lived 10 and when she died he called me and said I wish

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everybody had a daughter like you he said because our success

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was because we did do it together yeah so I knew that if

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I dug into whatever was going on with my body which was not even

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given a diagnosis that I was going to find it, and I was

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determined that I was going to find it. Ended up, I had

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fibromyalgia, Hashimotos, IBS, I had type two diabetes that my

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doctor had missed, and it was bad. My A 1c was 7.7 I mean it

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was high, and so, and then as I started working with my

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functional doctor, I also discovered by accident that I

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had a fatty liver,

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Manon Bolliger: right? So,

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Cheryl Meyer: and that wasn't a surprise, since I had the

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diabetes, and I had eaten poorly for 63 years of my life, so that

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became a concentration to learn everything I could learn about

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the liver, which is the workhorse of the body. So, if

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your liver isn't healthy, it impacts everything else going on

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in your body, and it actually ends up, it's the number one

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cause of heart disease. So, you need to follow the threads. That

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you discover as you research, and you need to take it

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seriously, that each of these little gems is going to get you

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one step closer to feeling great, and that's what I did. I

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am now 14 years away from starting this journey. I still

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have some puzzle pieces I'm looking for. Somebody who

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follows me on Facebook said, are you really as healthy as you say

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you are? I feel great every day, I pop out of bed happy as heck,

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because the food I eat turns on all my happiness, right? Yeah, I

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am as healthy as I tell you I am, but that doesn't, as it is,

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and you never stop looking for your pieces,

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Manon Bolliger: right? Right now, so how in your search,

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right? So I understand the background, where you knew that

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researching was something that could be done, right? So that's

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a lot of people just think that somehow doctors know everything,

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and they don't research, and you know part of it is true, they,

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they don't research, because a lot of times now, you know, it's

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like they're overwhelmed by crazy, silly hours where you

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don't get to know your patient or client at all, and and then

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they have these, you know, reps that tell them, well, this will

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fix that and that, and so it's like, it's like, okay, you know

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what, I'll just use the cookbook rather than use my brain and go

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deeper, and so I think a lot of the art of really asking

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questions and getting to the root of things has been lost,

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you know. Not

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Cheryl Meyer: everyone. I actually read that from when

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something new gets discovered. It's discovered in whatever it's

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minute field is in, and it can take as long as 15 years before

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it will get into the general medical journal that your doctor

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might read it right, so your thing is you want to find it

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early. If there's something new that you want to pull the thread

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on and question, and I've had formed partnerships with every

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doctor I've had, and I will go to anybody who can help me. I

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have a naturopath, I have a functional doctor. I have a

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regular doctor, and they all know I'm in charge of my health.

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You are my partner, you are my advisor, and we're going to take

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care of my health together. And I currently have a

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conventionally trained doctor who lives holistically, so he

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gets it, and his theory is you do the least invasive first, and

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then if you have to, then you can go to taking that serious

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medication, or doing that surgery, or whatever it is, but

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we always start with the least invasive, and you need to find

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those doctors that you believe will support your body in

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finding holistic solutions, and it doesn't mean I don't take

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drugs, because the drug can mitigate whatever is going on in

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my body until I can change my lifestyle enough to start to

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cure it, and the doctor knows if I'm going to take a drug, I'm

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going to research it, I'm going to know what the downside is,

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because they all come with gifts, both good and bad, and so

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if I start to get better, then he's going to help me wean off

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of that medication, because I'm not taking it forever. And one

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of the first things I had to learn is there is no magic pill.

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You are the magic pill. People my age think they're going to

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find the magic pill, and they're going to feel better and be able

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to live out life. It doesn't exist. You are the magic pill,

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and your lifestyle changes are the magic that your body can

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convert to wellness. So, you have to own it. You have to

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question, you have to research, and there's probably some bad

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information out there, as well as good information. So, I found

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doctors that I trusted, and that's where I would start as I

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researched each subject, but you can do it, and then you go to

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whoever your care taker is, and you have a robust conversation

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with them, so that you're sure you stay on track for getting

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the best possible solution for your body, not in your body. He

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doesn't know how you feel.

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Manon Bolliger: No, no, exactly. So, so the research part I get,

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the the drive that you're going to get on top of this, and that,

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well, no, that's not that one. Sorry, because I think that you

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were an entrepreneur before, so right. I know where drive comes

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from, and

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Cheryl Meyer: I'm an A personality, which my stress

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level was so out of control. I shot up and used up all my

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cortisol and was borderline Addison's disease when I got

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sick. That was one of. First places I had to dig in and get

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under control.

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Manon Bolliger: Okay, so actually that's interesting.

00:20:06
Let's go there for one moment. How did you choose to get that

00:20:12
under control out of all the technologies out there and

00:20:15
things? What did you do?

00:20:17
Cheryl Meyer: Well, I decided I was going to take a yoga class,

00:20:21
Manon Bolliger: okay,

00:20:22
Cheryl Meyer: but I don't like yoga where they're going to tie

00:20:24
me into a knot,

00:20:26
Manon Bolliger: okay.

00:20:26
Cheryl Meyer: So I looked until I found a local class, which was

00:20:29
by a company called Body and Brain, and they're all over the

00:20:32
country, and they do a towel yoga that's a combination of

00:20:38
some yoga, some isometric, some general wellness, mind over

00:20:45
body. It was a combination of everything, and I have to add to

00:20:51
it. While I was looking for this yoga class, I had also been in a

00:20:54
long-term relationship with a man who wasn't going to change

00:20:57
for me. He was not going to let me dictate how he was going to

00:21:00
eat, he was not going to adopt any healthy habits, and so after

00:21:05
many years we had to break, which was just all additional

00:21:08
stress, which didn't help the situation. So I found my yoga

00:21:14
class, and then I dug in what were other solutions, and I

00:21:18
found a man who started integrative medicine, called Dr.

00:21:21
Andrew Weil, and he had come up at that point, which was 15

00:21:26
years ago. Now, there are all kinds of breathing exercises,

00:21:29
but I do his breathing exercise, which takes four minutes to go

00:21:36
through the rounds, and it releases all the tension in your

00:21:41
nervous system, and lets you take the top off your stress, so

00:21:46
you can function again.

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It's like, just not, they're just doing a job without

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consciousness many times, you know. And that's how we got into

00:23:36
the latest, you know, fiasco of crazy cancers and everything

00:23:42
from these so-called, you know, mRNA shots, and I mean it's just

00:23:48
crazy, and you know people still believe this idea that the

00:23:53
governments are all good for us and authority is good, and you

00:23:59
know, we really have to question everything. We have to question

00:24:02
our education, we have to question our health, everything

00:24:06
about it. And you have to take

00:24:08
Cheryl Meyer: the time to look into it. We just got neurotic

00:24:11
glyphosate because, and Bayer has paid out $80 million to

00:24:17
people who got the lymphoma, that glyphosate, which is

00:24:21
Roundup, which is sprayed everywhere. It's sprayed on your

00:24:24
food, it's sprayed in your schoolyard, it's sprayed on your

00:24:26
public places. Your dog is walking in it. We had just

00:24:30
gotten everyone to start to wean themselves off of that for

00:24:34
weeds, and we're talking about weeds. Would you want to get

00:24:37
sick and some kind of cancer, or would you want to get rid of

00:24:40
wheats, so we finally did that, and now Bayer has gotten the

00:24:43
government to reverse all that, and they're going to start

00:24:46
spraying it on everything,

00:24:47
Manon Bolliger: food now. Yeah,

00:24:48
Cheryl Meyer: yeah. Well, it's better than our food. No, I

00:24:51
know, but

00:24:52
Manon Bolliger: yeah, I mean,

00:24:54
Cheryl Meyer: we get wrenched in it because it makes it give them

00:24:58
a bigger yield, yeah. And so anytime you eat anything with

00:25:02
conventional wheat, you are poisoning yourself with

00:25:06
Manon Bolliger: no, yeah, no, it's yeah, it's it's really a

00:25:10
big problem if people don't look at all of those things, you

00:25:13
know, it's, you know, I'm not your

00:25:18
Cheryl Meyer: host, that of the greatest magnitude either, but

00:25:20
when you hear me say something, look into it, see if I'm right,

00:25:24
see if that would help you,

00:25:26
Manon Bolliger: right? No, for sure. Okay. Well, you know what,

00:25:29
our time's like up.

00:25:32
Cheryl Meyer: Sorry about that.

00:25:33
Manon Bolliger: But why don't you give us where people can

00:25:36
find out more about you and your resources? That would be

00:25:40
wonderful. And

00:25:41
Cheryl Meyer: I have two books on Amazon, all the steps I took

00:25:44
step by step to get rid of all the toxins. That's 117 awards,

00:25:49
because no one has a layman had explained it step by step

00:25:52
before, and it's got a huge bibliography in the back of all

00:25:56
the people I follow that I go to for information. So the book was

00:26:00
like gold. Then my functional doctor asked me to write the

00:26:02
second one. Was okay, you don't live in an isolated life, so how

00:26:08
do you live in society and follow all these rules now that

00:26:12
you don't want to deviate from? So I wrote Living Low Toxin, and

00:26:16
that's also up on Amazon, and it's Wannade Awards. So those

00:26:21
two books, and those are things like, How do I vet a restaurant?

00:26:24
How do I go to somebody else's house for dinner without driving

00:26:27
them nuts that they have to cook away from me? All those things

00:26:30
are in the second book. So then I have started doing tons of

00:26:34
free resources, and they're all up on issue as flip books. I did

00:26:40
an A to Z magazine, which will tell you things like what were

00:26:45
my signs that I was getting sick that I ignored. What are all the

00:26:50
what are all my healthy habits that I want you to adopt,

00:26:53
because some of them may not seem logical. Getting seven

00:26:56
hours of sleep is one of them, because that six to seventh hour

00:26:59
is when all the plaque gets swept out of your brain, so it's

00:27:03
important. So I have all of that in there. My functional doctor

00:27:06
wrote an article, my nature of path wrote an article, my toxin

00:27:10
expert wrote an article who's created a plant enzyme cleaning

00:27:15
material, and she has low toxin resources on her website

00:27:22
community is number one for health, so a woman who started

00:27:27
chemo buddies, which is not to tell you what to do if you get

00:27:31
cancer, but to give you love in a community, because no one

00:27:34
should go through it alone, wrote an article, a woman who

00:27:38
had two botched back surgeries, who ended up at the same towel

00:27:46
group, has a big thing here in Sedona. They have a 500 acre

00:27:51
retreat. She ended up there and finally got her life back. So

00:27:56
she and they did a documentary that ended up on PBS, called so

00:28:02
they wrote an article, so the articles are great. You will

00:28:05
learn a ton, and they will give you places. What do I do when I

00:28:09
go to a convention and I want to take my own food? All of that is

00:28:12
in my magazine. Then I wrote a book, because people were

00:28:15
confused on what to eat, and my rule is, if there's a word on

00:28:19
that label that you don't know or don't can't pronounce, you

00:28:22
just put it back on the shelf, you don't put it in your body,

00:28:25
but I decided I needed to break it down, so I wrote, How did we

00:28:29
get into this mess? What exactly is ultra-processed food, because

00:28:33
it will make you throw up, and then what should you be eating,

00:28:37
and I don't care if you're vegan, vegetarian, paleo, pagan,

00:28:42
pescetarian. I don't care. I give you the rules because it

00:28:44
starts with I want 70% of it to be organic plant food, and I

00:28:49
explain why organic, and I explain how important the vagal

00:28:54
nerve is, and how important fiber is, because you don't get

00:28:58
any fiber in ultra-processed food, and you need it, because

00:29:02
that's how your information system works,

00:29:05
Manon Bolliger: right?

00:29:07
Cheryl Meyer: Everything gets piggyback on that fiber and goes

00:29:09
over to your vagal nerve, which delivers it everywhere. So, that

00:29:13
book is there, my stress book. I have a three minute guide to

00:29:17
stress exercises to keep on your desk, because it's that

00:29:21
important, and if you keep it on your desk, maybe you'll remember

00:29:24
to pick it up and pick one of the exercises and do them, so

00:29:29
that's there. Then I started really feeling like my big

00:29:33
problem that I got sick from was because I was not practicing

00:29:36
self care or self love, so I wrote a book called Radical Self

00:29:41
Care, because it's not just taking a bubble bath at night,

00:29:45
everything in your life that will help you be the best that

00:29:50
you can be,

00:29:51
Manon Bolliger: right.

00:29:51
Cheryl Meyer: And I have adopted things like heart mass, which

00:29:54
helps me get out of my brain, which talks trash to me, and go

00:29:59
into my heart. Which is your second brain and has as many

00:30:02
neurons as your brain does

00:30:05
Manon Bolliger: send people to your site, but it will allow you

00:30:09
to

00:30:09
Cheryl Meyer: communicate with the universe in a language that

00:30:11
can hear you, and I love it. It's the most relaxing thing I

00:30:15
could possibly do. So that's in there, the importance of Sion

00:30:18
and milk thistle, and all the things I did to take care of my

00:30:22
healthy liver, it's all there, and they're all in flip books.

00:30:26
An issue you can get to that by going to Cheryl M Health News,

00:30:29
which I have at the bottom.com and on the front page it will

00:30:34
lead you to all my books, but any book that you go to will

00:30:37
lead you to all of them.

00:30:39
Manon Bolliger: Great. Well, thank you so much for your time,

00:30:43
but also all this work that you've put out. It really makes

00:30:47
it a lot easier when people.. it

00:30:49
Cheryl Meyer: became my mission and my passion. Yeah, I figured

00:30:51
out that I needed to sell the business and change the

00:30:55
direction of my life, and it has been remarkably fulfilling, but

00:31:01
you have to believe it, and you have to implement as you learn,

00:31:06
or nothing will change.

00:31:09
Manon Bolliger: Thank you, Cheryl.

00:31:11
Cheryl Meyer: Thank you for having me. I obviously get

00:31:12
excited, and I love to talk about this stuff. So, thank you.

00:31:16
I appreciate the opportunity, Doctor, your audience.

00:31:19
Manon Bolliger: Thank you for joining us at the Healers Cafe.

00:31:21
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