In this episode of The Healers Café, Charlene described an individualized, holistic approach to nutrition and wellness shaped by five decades of experience, while Manon explored health, food processing, and spiritual connection.
For the transcript and full story go to: https://www.drmanonbolliger.com/charlene-day
Highlights from today's episode include:
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Charlene: Nutrition should be individualized—there's no single diet or cleanse that works for everyone. [05:19]
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Charlene: Make space for quiet time and activities you love; she shared that dancing helps her stay present. [31:18, 34:18]
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Manon: Consider how food is processed, not just the ingredient itself, when thinking about possible food reactions. [20:39]
ABOUT CHARLENE DAY:
I'm a Canadian, gluten-free, dance and Qi Gong loving, vitality boosting maven. I live in Ontario and love helping women over 40 protect their health.
Drawing on five decades of experience, I'm here to help you live a vibrant, energetic life. I'll share how I reversed my osteopenia to achieve strong bone health and reveal how, as a great-grandmother, my biological age is 30 years younger than my chronological age.
I'm here to guide you in embracing graceful aging and achieving vibrant health at every stage of life.
Core purpose/passion: I am passionate about making a difference with people's health physically, mentally/emotionally and spiritually.
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ABOUT MANON BOLLIGER, RBHT, FCAH:
As a retired Naturopath 1992-2021, I saw an average of 150 patients per week and have helped people ranging from rural farmers in Nova Scotia to stressed out CEOs in Toronto to tri-athletes here in Vancouver.
My resolve to educate, empower and engage people to take charge of their own health is evident in my best-selling books: 'What Patients Don't Say if Doctors Don't Ask: The Mindful Patient-Doctor Relationship' and 'A Healer in Every Household: Simple Solutions for Stress'. and What if Your Body is Smarter than You Think? I am the Founder & CEO of The Bowen College Inc. which teaches BowenFirst™ Therapy and holds transformational workshops to achieve these goals.
So, when I share with you that LISTENing to Your body is a game changer in the healing process, I am speaking from expertise and direct experience".
Mission: A Healer in Every Household!
For more great information to go to her weekly blog: http://bowencollege.com/blog.
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intro: Welcome to the Healers Cafe: Conversations on Help and
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Healing at Manob Bolliger, a retired and deregistered
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naturopathic physician with 30 plus years of experience. Here
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you will discover engaging and informative conversations
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between experienced healers, covering all aspects of healing,
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the personal journey, the journey of the practitioner, and
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the amazing possibilities for our own body and spirit.
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Manon Bolliger: Welcome to the Healers Cafe. Today I have with
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me Charlene Day. She's a Canadian gluten-free, dance and
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qigong loving, vitality boosting maven. I have that impression
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after just speaking to you for a little bit. Anyway, she lives in
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Ontario, and her passion is to help women over 40 protect their
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health. And obviously, she's drawing on five decades of
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experience. Though it would be hard to believe that that could
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be possible, given how young you look, but anyways, she's here to
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help you live a vibrant, energetic life, and she will
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also share how she reversed osteopenia to achieve strong
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bone health, and reveal how, as a grandmother, her biological
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age is actually 30 years younger than what it is. What do you say
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chronologically?
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Charlene Day: Chronologically, yes.
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Manon Bolliger: Okay. Well, look, welcome, and let's turn it
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to you. And yeah, what what got you interested in all of this in
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the first place?
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Charlene Day: Well, years ago I went on a health weekend, so it
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was like a Friday to Sunday kind of weekend. And on the health
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weekend, they were just serving fruits and vegetables, like it
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was like a cleansing type weekend as well. Well, my diet
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before getting on that weekend was a little bit like cheese and
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you know, like like more heavier foods. When I went on that
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weekend, I got violently ill.
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Manon Bolliger: Oh yes, okay. So
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Charlene Day: by the Saturday lunchtime, the instructor had me
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under his wing and was using me as the example to teach
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everybody else how to not do sudden changes in diet for one
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of them and and then he he took me under his wing for a whole
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week after the cleanse or after the weekend cleanse and we did a
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cleanse with his supervision for seven days, by day four, I think
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it was, I was actually euphoric. I I
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Manon Bolliger: just
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Charlene Day: I couldn't believe just how wonderful I felt I
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felt, and I felt like like the energy of the universe was able
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to flow through my body and every, I mean, it was it was
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spectacular. It was amazing. So it so turned me on to health
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that I then started exploring everything about health after
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that week and became a functional nutritionist. I did
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all sorts of healing things over the years because health was the
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main, you know. I needed to know everything about health, so kept
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exploring.
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Manon Bolliger: My cleanse. Wow. Okay. So I know you have a lot
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more to share, but what? Let's say this cleanse, and I mean it
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could be adapted to what you now would recommend people, because
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I know things evolve and change, and some things were big in at
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one point, and then they're big out now. So, what would you, you
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know, in a few words, like what what are what's the main
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components of what you feel a cleanse, a short cleanse that
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makes a difference. Like you, you know, day four you're
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connecting. What does that entail?
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Charlene Day: Well, that was just he just had me on apple
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cider. That's all he had me on for the full week. For the full
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week, it was it was just that and water and and nothing else,
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and so that was, and I mean, I was so not into health when he
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suggested this. I thought I was gonna die, like I had no idea,
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like I was really not into health when I first started this
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whole opening the door, and so. Was so amazed by day four when I
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was like, "Wow, you know, like that. I started to study
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everything I possibly could under the guise of health, like
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or under that umbrella. Was like, "Okay, give me everything,
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kind of thing. So is that
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Manon Bolliger: is that how you would start now? Start people
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with
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Charlene Day: in terms of individuals, my my big claim to
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fame in the 50 years of seeing nutritional clients is I do not
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ever give anybody the same cleanse, the same diet, the
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same. Everybody's so biochemically individual that
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everybody has to have their own path. There's no one way, which
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of course the the marketing model thinks, oh, just one thing
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can do everything. No, they can't. So yeah, it's very
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individualized so that they get exactly what their body is
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asking for not what the marketers want you to have or
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whatever. Sure,
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Manon Bolliger: sure. So functional nutrition, which
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means you you do the blood work, the analysis. It actually is
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Charlene Day: more. I'm more the intuitive type of functional
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nutritionist. Based on the 50 years of experience, I can
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actually look at somebody. I have a an assessment. When they
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fill that out, I can fill in all the blanks based on all my years
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of experience without any blood test. So now they sometimes
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bring their blood tests to me. That's fine. Then I look at them
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because I I am schooled in that arena of reading them, but I
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don't actually ask for that because I personally feel like I
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don't need it because of my intuitive aspect of working with
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people. So and my experience shows me like I can almost say
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immediately as soon as I fill out the assessment, what's going
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on?
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Manon Bolliger: Yeah. Well, I think it's interesting you raise
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that because you know, as naturopathic doctors, which I
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need to declare that I am no longer, is we really were told
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to take tests, do tests for everything and kind of follow
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the conventional pharmaceutical, you know, way of doing things,
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right? And so a lot of patients would come in and say, "Well,
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gosh, the test is so expensive. You know how can I even get on
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with the treatment, right? And because my my passion was more
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for homeopathy, in that I could see the whole just their
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symptoms alone told me what was wrong with them. And then you
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know if you're in practice long enough, you have intuition, you
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can put things together, you know. And then you know
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sometimes they would do these tests, and then I would go, "Oh
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yeah, okay, I'm I'm on track. You know, but but it's
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interesting that you you raise that because that is really what
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we need is is the ability to know ourselves and our symptoms,
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and to be able to share them from what's not normal, and a
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lot of people, you know, assume things are normal, right? Achy,
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this, that. It's like no, you know, that's not normal, right?
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You're not supposed to be achy at 60, like you know, it's just
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something's wrong, right? You know.
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Charlene Day: Well, I'm gonna also share a little story. I was
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asked to actually teach nutrition at the naturopathic
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college.
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Manon Bolliger: ok
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Charlene Day: looked at their curriculum, I turned it down
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because it was too medical model. Yeah, and I'm not medical
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model. I am totally into the physical, the mental, emotional,
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spiritual, the whole person, which is why I call functional
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traditional because I'm going for the cause, the root cause.
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The root cause may be emotional, right? So we got to get down to
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the root cause of things, and and and the medical model and
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anybody trying to be like the medical model doesn't quite do
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it. We need we need to be really in tune with who we are, and you
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know, in touch with the the emotions, the mental, the
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spiritual, like get get really holistic, I
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Manon Bolliger: guess. Yeah, that's interesting because I I
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do think that the um not the naturopaths of the olden days
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were yes the true naturopaths, and um and I think it's been co
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opted and they've been bought out and it's it's now you know
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it's a it's a different model that you know of course might be
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more popular to uneducated people, but but it's not more
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effective. So you know I always tell. People, if they oh, you
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know, you're a naturopath. How should I become one? No, not in
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this model, right? Like, yeah, you know, like learn the parts
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and the pieces. I, I mean, I don't regret my education.
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That's not saying. And I was part of the old ones, you know,
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the elders. So for me, you know, yeah, we had fantastic teachers,
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and and they did all of what you're saying. You know, they're
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always looking at the emotional, the mental, the spiritual, the
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physical, the circumstances, like the person. You know,
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exactly. And now it's like type on a thing, and you're not even
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looking at the person, and and then you're you're using you may
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as well use any. I mean, we're supposed to diagnose them the
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same way. Well, then why don't you just make us pharma
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pharmacists? And they did. They gave us in BC.
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Unknown: That whole medical model, like when when
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Rockefellers bought bought the medical schools and that became
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drug pusher school, it wasn't medical school anymore. Well,
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the same thing has happened with with a lot of these modalities.
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I guess I'll call
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Manon Bolliger: them midwives. Same. Yeah, midwives. I mean, I
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had three home births, you know, with real midwives, and now you
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know, like they're telling to that it's perfectly safe to take
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acid acetaminophen, when you know, for goodness' sake, like
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that's been now known, you know, publicly. But it's also a bit
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well not advertised by anyone who should be, but you know,
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they're still they're still doing it. If you're doing
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epidurals, they're doing it. They're saying if you back pain,
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just take it. Or no, no, it doesn't go through the blood
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brain. That it's a safe. It's been used since forever, really.
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You know, like it's crazy stuff. Anyway, yeah, yeah. Okay, let's
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go
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Charlene Day: on
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Manon Bolliger: then. So, so yeah. So you do an individual
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approach. So if you were to do the unindividual thing just for
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a moment, if you were saying the five most common things, let's
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say, that people are, you know, that they need to detox from.
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What would you say they are like? Just from general
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population.
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Charlene Day: Well, alcohol.
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Manon Bolliger: Yeah.
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Unknown: Coffee. Coffee. Again, of course, sugar. I mean, all
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all of these things cause inflammation, and and a lot of
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people don't realize that weight gain actually is inflammation.
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You know, they don't understand that, and so we need to find
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what's the cause of your inflammation, and then deal with
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it because that makes all the difference in the world when we
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find out what the cause is, but the other thing I found over the
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years too is that a lot of people are reacting to the
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glyphosate in the wheat, so that's another big problem these
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days. Because, because then when they're and I was one of them as
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well, and so when you know we look at the overall diet. We
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need to look at all these potential sensitivities,
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allergens, whatever you want to call them, to these other things
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that now are being added into the foods, and so that's a
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problem as well as the ones that are like smoking and alcohol and
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all the you know the the general ones that everybody knows about
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and just doesn't always have the willpower to get rid of it. But
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but I also am a neuro encoding specialist, so I can help people
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both either through hypnosis or neuro encoding work with the
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mind if they really want to decide to get rid of something,
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I can help them. So, but they have to make that decision first
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to say yes, I do want to get rid of whatever it is-alcohol or
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smoking or whatever. So, I've been able to help people that
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way as well, so that if they are ready, I can do that. So, we do
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again. I work very all the different angles in terms of
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health-physical, mental, emotional, spiritual-the whole
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package. Yeah,
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Manon Bolliger: yeah. Because I wonder if this is your
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experience, but I remember having patients that couldn't do
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you know gluten, right, and they were off all gluten, but they
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went to Italy, and and then they decided, you know, this is our
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holiday. We're just gonna enjoy it, and you know, they had they
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had pizza, and they had no problem. Right, and so when they
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came back, their big question was: Do you think it was mind
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over matter? Do you think it's, you know, we are having a
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holiday. We decided, you know, not to do this, but we were, you
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know, they got tested for this apparently, right? Not not
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through me, but so they felt that they really were gluten
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sensitive.
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Unknown: Well, when they do their research, they'll find out
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the glyphosate's not in the wheat over in Italy. That's
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right,
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Manon Bolliger: exactly. And so then it becomes it. That's the
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problem, right? Yes. Same with milk, you know, or the cheeses,
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right? Like they're not using what is it called? Rennet,
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natural, right? There, there. It's an artificial one, which
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changes completely the microenzyme capacity of it,
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right? So,
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Unknown: yeah,
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Manon Bolliger: it's um, yeah. So it's not like oh, you're
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sensitive to milk. You're sensitive to U.S. and now
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Canadian milk because Canada is following suit beautifully, and
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although
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Unknown: I always taught clients though that I would I would do I
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think you can see that the big the big circle there I was
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taught that the cow milk molecule was that big, and
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mother's milk molecule from humans that big. So when you put
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something that big into a human,
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Manon Bolliger: yeah,
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Unknown: it causes inflammation. So that's why kids get ear
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infections, and because because they're having a milk that's
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meant for a caf to grow into a one-ton animal into their little
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tiny body, it can't handle it. So I've taken people off milk,
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cow milk, for ever since I've been in practice, I think
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because that's one of the things that helped me getting off milk.
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So,
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Manon Bolliger: right, right, yeah. Well, it's interesting too
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because if you have raw milk, then you have everything it
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takes to digest it, even as a human. I'm not sure how young,
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you know. I do. I have. I agree with you somewhat. You know,
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with molecule size, but I think as we develop our ability to
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digest, and maybe it even has a difference from where you're
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raised. You know, I wonder, you know, if some people, like a lot
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of Chinese, can't touch milk at all. You know,
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Charlene Day: yeah, right.
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Manon Bolliger: Whereas I would say some people. It's like, I
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mean, like I can do certain cheeses. I know others. I won't.
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I won't touch it. You know, or milk. I don't. It's not good for
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me. I don't want it. You know. Right. What I
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Unknown: recommend for clients who have to have cheese is to go
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with goat or sheep because they're smaller animals. So
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then, their protein molecules are smaller, a little bit more
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in line with the human one. Yeah. So if you have to have
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cheese, that's what I usually say to people: go small, the
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smaller animals rather than the big animals. So
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Manon Bolliger: exactly, exactly. Yeah, yeah. We had in
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Nova Scotia, we had goats for the kids, so we did do goat
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milk, and I made goat cheese and caf here, and you know,
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Charlene Day: which
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Manon Bolliger: being European, it's felt and you know, from
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Switzerland and the Alps, where this is like part of life, you
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know.
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Charlene Day: To
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Manon Bolliger: me, it was like, no, I'm not going to go with
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this. Well, actually, I did. I for a while, I stopped and I
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gave them soya milk. This is after breastfeeding, right? I
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breastfed fully, you know, for
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Charlene Day: what
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Manon Bolliger: you know what some people consider way too
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long. But anyway, that's fine, you know. 11 years, three kids.
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I I can do it. You know, it was a long time, but um, but you
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know, soya was much more detrimental, obviously, right?
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But again, that was a fad. That you know, at that time, it was
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like you know, why not try that? And you know, it's like so.
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Sometimes you know that some of the older traditions without the
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glyco phosphate, without all of that shit, are probably easier
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for our bodies.
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Unknown: Yeah, yeah. Well, soybean on its own is great, but
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the way they've manufactured it with the solvents going through
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it is not a food anymore. So it's not a soybean anymore. It's
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now poison when you when you drink it. So or eat it. And
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Manon Bolliger: if you're in Japan, that's not how they do
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it,
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Unknown: right? Right.
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Manon Bolliger: So again, there's a food that you go to
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Japan and it's perfectly fine. You eat it here. You're
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allergic, right?
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Unknown: Right. Yeah. All the processing. Yeah.
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Manon Bolliger: Wine, being European, and I've I've got a
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lot of patients, and a lot of them I know enjoy wine because
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when I no longer was working, they said you want to get
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together for tea, coffee, martini, or wine because I
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wanted to meet. You know, outside of just because you know
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after doing the. For 30 years, you you develop a connection
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with people, right?
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Unknown: Yeah,
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Manon Bolliger: and um, and I've I've never, I mean, when you
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have a reaction to wine, you know, this like red face, or I
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can get it, but I I know that in some parts of Europe, I mean,
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wine is it you know drunk, I would say abundantly, not you
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know your you know not just like a little tiny bit once in a blue
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moon, but you know it's drunk fairly liberally.
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Unknown: But I think it's well made there, right? So it won't
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have all the chemicals in it.
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Manon Bolliger: It doesn't have the chemicals. That's what the
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difference is. So and so again, it's not wine per se. At least
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that's my belief, you know. And you know, some of the organic
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wines are delicious. I mean, you know, and they don't cause these
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reactions. So right, you know, I I think really if I start
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looking at this whole nutrition thing is, it's really not the
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food per se. It's the processing method of the food.
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Unknown: Yes. Yeah. Yeah.
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Manon Bolliger: You agree. Yeah, because that's what I came to
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realize. You know, it's like, it's um, yeah, and and that's
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really a much huger problem.
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Unknown: Oh, huge, huge! It's huge. When when food became a
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business,
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Manon Bolliger: yes,
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Unknown: that's when our health started to go downhill, right?
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Yeah. Because yeah, money became the the
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Manon Bolliger: the priority.
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Unknown: Their priority. Yeah. Our health was not their
00:21:35
priority. They just wanted to make their profits. Yeah. And so
00:21:39
bad, so much. You know, you know, too bad you've got
00:21:42
reactions. Too bad for you, you know. So,
00:21:47
Manon Bolliger: well, it's kind of part of their bigger agenda.
00:21:49
Yeah, exactly. If you get sick, then they've got work. You know,
00:21:53
it's it's a beautifully made system from their point of view.
00:21:58
Oh yeah, but it's um, you know, and it's interesting because
00:22:01
it's like you'd say it's not an individual person who decides to
00:22:07
do this. It it belongs to a system of belief that it's okay
00:22:14
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00:22:19
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00:23:04
Unknown: yep,
00:23:04
Manon Bolliger: right. Because otherwise, why would you
00:23:06
replace, let's say, olive oil with canola oil?
00:23:11
Unknown: Right.
00:23:11
Manon Bolliger: Like why? It it is purely financial
00:23:15
Unknown: money. Yep.
00:23:17
Manon Bolliger: Exactly. Profit.
00:23:18
Unknown: Profit.
00:23:19
Manon Bolliger: Yeah. No. And it's um, yeah, it's it's quite
00:23:22
incredible when you look at the whole health system on that
00:23:25
level, you know.
00:23:26
Unknown: Well, it's not even a health system anymore. No, it's
00:23:28
an illness system. It's like completely. I won't use a word
00:23:33
that I was about to use, but it's completely destroyed. We'll
00:23:37
use that word instead.
00:23:39
Manon Bolliger: Well, there's definitely room for rebuild. I
00:23:42
think, you know, I think enough people realize what the issue is
00:23:47
who are conscious that you know. But it's not a oh, I'll just do
00:23:52
it in my own garden because you know we're getting the skies
00:23:55
crisscrossed with arsenic, and you know they're playing
00:23:59
tic-tac-toe on our behalf, you know, and it's all coming down
00:24:03
on our oceans, on our foods, on on everything, right? Yep. So it
00:24:08
really takes a lot more to, you know, to stop this. But I guess
00:24:14
the biggest thing is conversation and and and making
00:24:18
health important, you know, and and I was going to ask you, you
00:24:23
you said at first health didn't matter really to you. You
00:24:26
weren't concerned about
00:24:28
Unknown: it. Well, as as now this is my early 20s when I went
00:24:31
on this weekend, right? This health weekend, but I didn't
00:24:34
know. I I grew up in a family that knew nothing about health.
00:24:39
Right. My mother knew nothing about nutrition. Like we were,
00:24:42
we were fed canned goods most of my early life. You know, so so
00:24:48
this whole like in other words, when I got out on my own, a
00:24:51
whole world opened up that I didn't even know existed because
00:24:54
it wasn't in my family. So
00:24:57
Manon Bolliger: yeah, so
00:24:58
Unknown: it was like oh okay, and then. I went okay. I can't
00:25:01
get enough of it. This course and that course. I just I kept
00:25:04
on, you know. Okay, more and more and more.
00:25:07
Manon Bolliger: And and why do you think your your parents
00:25:09
weren't exposed it from where you live? Well, I
00:25:15
Unknown: think my grandparents went through that depression
00:25:18
thing, right? That like after the war or during the war, I
00:25:21
guess whatever, and and so they sort of grew up with that, and
00:25:25
not having you know certain amounts of foods available to
00:25:30
them, and and then it was the you know late 40s, early 50s,
00:25:37
and and canned goods came into being. My mother ended up with
00:25:41
four kids. Well, because two two of them were twins, so like all
00:25:46
of a sudden there was four little ones, and and so she
00:25:51
thought it was easy just to open up a can and throw it on a plate
00:25:54
or whatever, throw it wherever in a pot. I guess we didn't
00:25:57
microwaves back then, but throw it in a pot and get it on the on
00:26:00
the table, so and craft dinner that kind of stuff is what I
00:26:05
grew up on, you know. So and peanut butter and peanut butter
00:26:09
and whatever banana sandwiches or something something like
00:26:13
that. The fact that I the fact that I grew up somewhat healthy
00:26:20
surprises me sometimes when I see what I came through, and I
00:26:23
went, "Whoa, you know. So, but I've really got into health, and
00:26:27
so the longer period of my time, I've been focused on health
00:26:31
versus my little life. So, yeah.
00:26:34
Manon Bolliger: But it also shows that you know the. I mean,
00:26:36
the body regenerates, right? It's it is forgiving to an
00:26:42
extent, you know, and it's not just the food. I mean, you might
00:26:47
have had a, you know, a loving upbringing or a, you know, I
00:26:52
don't know. No, okay. Well, I'm just trying. It's
00:26:55
Charlene Day: pretty pretty traumatic, unfortunately. Yeah,
00:26:58
the stuff that went on is Whatever, it's all, all gone and
00:27:04
finished, and people are deceased and so forth. So yeah.
00:27:09
Manon Bolliger: Well, okay, yeah. But I mean, you know, it's
00:27:12
true though that some people, it's other things that keep them
00:27:15
going, you know, and be healthy, even though they're either very
00:27:21
poor or they can't have access, or you know. Well,
00:27:26
Charlene Day: the thing that saved me was the connection
00:27:30
because I would talk to angels as a child, so that's the only
00:27:35
thing that saved me through everything that that I got
00:27:39
through, right? So I would have I have communication with other
00:27:44
unseen beings. I guess my mother was always freaking out. Who are
00:27:47
you talking to?
00:27:50
Manon Bolliger: But
00:27:50
Unknown: I I that's what saved me. Like that was my go-to place
00:27:55
for safety because the real world out here was not safe as a
00:27:59
child. So so yeah I. I I really that's why I'm really always
00:28:05
making sure physical, mental, emotional, spiritual like that's
00:28:09
one part that we need to be looking at because everybody's
00:28:13
got a different connection, but you need that connection, right?
00:28:16
You need to have some sort of connection to something larger
00:28:20
than you,
00:28:22
Manon Bolliger: right? Right. So actually, I'm putting you right
00:28:26
on the spot, but something larger than you, right? I mean,
00:28:32
that's how you start describing this. So as a child, it's like
00:28:41
it was like a a voice, or you could see it, or you
00:28:47
Unknown: apparently I saw things according to my mother's you
00:28:53
know conversations with me. I would tell her I would see
00:28:57
Benny, and I would see you know different entities. Yeah. but a
00:29:04
lot of times after I sort of start, I guess maybe I was being
00:29:08
like, "What you know? Like, and so I started to close that in.
00:29:12
So then I would just do my own private conversations without
00:29:15
seeing anything. So I would just, I would just talk like,
00:29:20
"Help! I need
00:29:21
Manon Bolliger: right, and
00:29:22
Unknown: talk to somebody today. Yeah,
00:29:25
Manon Bolliger: because I I know quite a few people are saying
00:29:28
you know, because now it's coming up again that you know
00:29:31
your connection with God and Jesus and and there's you know a
00:29:37
lot of people were not brought up educationally to believe any
00:29:42
of that, maybe not write out atheists, but they kind of I
00:29:48
don't know I don't know is there you know now if you've had a
00:29:51
trauma or you've had something in your life, likely you have
00:29:56
figured out some spiritual connection. At least that's. How
00:30:00
I can see from my patients-they all have kind of said, and then,
00:30:04
and they have some experience, you know, whether it's light or
00:30:10
a voice or something. But if you happen to be in that, you know,
00:30:16
group of people that haven't seen much trauma, haven't really
00:30:21
had it too bad, you know, and they're you know they're in
00:30:25
their 30s, 40s. They're you know they're about to see crazy
00:30:30
stuff, but how do how would you recommend they connect with
00:30:37
that? Because I think it's you know, I mean, I'll give you an
00:30:42
example. You know, I I I I bless the food I receive before I eat
00:30:47
it. I just I'm grateful for it. Who am I grateful to? I don't. I
00:30:53
don't. You know, it's not like I go to the next question. I don't
00:30:56
necessarily say God, or I'm just like the feeling of wow, you
00:31:01
know, this was made. It was prepared. It was grown. It, you
00:31:05
know, and I'm sure that I did not put any glyco phosphate in
00:31:09
it. So, but where where do you tell people to start with their
00:31:16
connection to spirit?
00:31:18
Unknown: Well, usually meditation, like having that
00:31:20
quiet time so that you actually can hear something or experience
00:31:25
something, because our life is like all the time, and and we
00:31:30
don't take time to slow down and meditate. And so that's the
00:31:35
place to start. But again, it'll depend on whether they're even
00:31:39
ready to do that, because not everybody's ready to slow down.
00:31:42
Because for some people, they find it also scary to slow down,
00:31:47
right? So again, be it'll have to be very individualized
00:31:53
because everybody's so different.
00:31:55
Manon Bolliger: Yeah. Yeah. So yeah,
00:31:58
Unknown: but that's probably where I would start: is send
00:32:01
them to a meditation class, or listen to meditation music, or
00:32:05
even the iPad. What's it called? i whatever those things that you
00:32:10
can plug in to listen to music, listen to that, listen to a
00:32:15
meditation as they fall asleep, maybe. So not a cell phone. We
00:32:20
don't want any cell phones near you, but those little i-I forget
00:32:24
what they call
00:32:25
Manon Bolliger: iPods, iPods
00:32:26
Unknown: or something like that. Yeah, something that you can
00:32:28
take to bed with you without having to have that kind of
00:32:32
energy near your near your bed. Right,
00:32:35
Manon Bolliger: right.
00:32:36
Manon Bolliger: yeah. So even iPods that iPods that are
00:32:36
Unknown: Yeah,
00:32:40
connected to it are okay.
00:32:45
Unknown: Oh, sorry, no, earphones, earphones. Yeah, I've
00:32:48
I have earphones and this little contraption that I can put from
00:32:53
my computer. I can put all my music and meditations on it. Oh,
00:32:56
and I take that to my bed to listen to meditations, and even
00:33:01
if I wake up in the middle of night, I'll turn it on just to
00:33:04
have another meditation or something, just to keep me in a
00:33:08
state of you know calm. Yeah, I don't want technology technology
00:33:14
like no, no. Okay, I was trying to
00:33:16
Manon Bolliger: get what you're talking about. Yes, so it's
00:33:18
Unknown: not not that thing. No, because that's not good, but the
00:33:24
the ear earphones, yeah, earphones, and that little thing
00:33:27
that plays. I think it's like an eye something. Maybe it's not
00:33:32
even an eye something. It's a little thing that takes that you
00:33:35
can put on your connect to your computer and get music and
00:33:39
whatever into it, and you can take it with you.
00:33:43
Manon Bolliger: I guess I don't know what that is, but okay,
00:33:46
okay, good. I was gonna say our time is like already up. I feel
00:33:51
like we haven't even begun. But I'll leave you the closing
00:33:57
remarks, and then you know maybe at another interview, if you're
00:34:00
interested, we could go in depth on, you know, one subject that
00:34:06
you can sort of really teach us about, if that would be of
00:34:09
interest for you. But maybe if you could close up with a few
00:34:15
for today, it'll be part
00:34:18
Unknown: one. Okay. Well, I guess closing closing ideas
00:34:25
around what we just talked about today is again to be conscious
00:34:29
of asking questions around where your food came from. So, like
00:34:35
rather than just you know going and buying it, check it out.
00:34:41
Where'd it come from? How organic is it? That kind of
00:34:44
thing. So really, being questioning more about what
00:34:48
you're putting in. I have a friend who says into your pie
00:34:52
hole. So yeah. So just really questioning that. Also, looking
00:35:01
at your lifestyle, and is there any place where you can add add
00:35:05
in some quiet time somewhere along the line? Also, finding
00:35:10
something that you love, like I love dancing, so I make sure I
00:35:15
dance six nights a week, right? So I do something that I love,
00:35:19
and when you're doing something that you love. You can be in the
00:35:22
present moment, and everything else can disappear when you do
00:35:26
something that you love. So I highly recommend that. And yeah,
00:35:33
well, that's that's good enough probably for now. It's it's
00:35:35
giving you ask questions and and do something that you love. So
00:35:40
that's a good start. Yeah.
00:35:41
Manon Bolliger: Okay. Well, let's let's do part two. Okay.
00:35:45
And tell us a little bit more about staying young. What are
00:35:50
the main things outside of starting? I only got the
00:35:53
beginning of your journey, not your journey. So clearly, we'll
00:35:57
we'll need to meet again. Okay. All right. Well, thank you very
00:36:01
much, Charlene
00:36:02
Unknown: Okay. Well, thanks.
00:36:03
Manon Bolliger: Lovely to meet you.
00:36:05
Unknown: Okay. Bye bye.
00:36:09
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