Empowering Womens Health Wealth with Michelle Taylor Manon on The Healers Caf
The Healers CaféNovember 19, 202536:526.69 MB

Empowering Womens Health Wealth with Michelle Taylor Manon on The Healers Caf

In this episode of The Healers Café, Manon speaks to Michelle Taylor, founder of the Woman and Wealth Initiative, discusses her journey from being diagnosed with leukemia at 17 to becoming a financial educator. She emphasizes the importance of financial education and stress management for women's health and wealth.

For the transcript and full story go to: https://www.drmanonbolliger.com/michelle-taylor

Highlights from today's episode include:

Michelle explains how financial stress can significantly impact health, and building financial education and comfort reduces this stress, especially for women.

Michelle introduces how taking small, intentional steps towards financial understanding and trust in oneself leads to greater empowerment and better outcomes, both financially and for overall well-being.

Manon says how focus on controlling what you can in your health and financial journey, and embrace the present rather than stressing over "what ifs" or uncontrollable factors.

ABOUT MICHELLE TAYLOR

Michelle Taylor is the founder of the Women and Wealth Initiative, a transformative platform aimed at empowering women to take control of their financial futures. With over a decade of experience in financial services, Michelle is committed to closing the wealth gap by providing financial education and a supportive community for women from all walks of life. From business owners preparing for exit strategies to stay-at-home moms managing household budgets, Michelle's initiative helps women define and achieve their version of financial success with confidence and clarity.

Having overcome personal adversity, including battling leukemia at 17 and launching a business at 27, Michelle's passion for financial empowerment stems from both professional expertise and personal experiences. She holds a Bachelor's in Business Administration and Marketing, and has been nationally recognized as a leader in financial planning, especially for female business owners. A member of the Millionaire Founders Club and Entreprenista League, Michelle continues to guide women through their financial journeys by equipping them with the tools to overcome limiting money beliefs and create long-term security.

Known for her relatable and energetic storytelling, Michelle speaks frequently on topics such as closing the pay gap, financial freedom, and overcoming adversity. Whether through her initiative or as a sought-after speaker and consultant, Michelle's mission remains clear: to break down financial barriers for women and inspire confidence in every aspect of their financial lives. Married to her husband Jason for 11 years, and mother to Beckett, 9, and Sloane, 5. Michelle also cherishes travel, fashion, and spending quality time with her family.

Core purpose/passion: To help females overcome similar health struggles and provide them with hope.

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ABOUT MANON BOLLIGER:

As a recently De-Registered board-certified naturopathic physician & in practice since 1992, I've seen an average of 150 patients per week and have helped people ranging from rural farmers in Nova Scotia to stressed out CEOs in Toronto to tri-athletes here in Vancouver.

My resolve to educate, empower and engage people to take charge of their own health is evident in my best-selling books: 'What Patients Don't Say if Doctors Don't Ask: The Mindful Patient-Doctor Relationship' and 'A Healer in Every Household: Simple Solutions for Stress'. I also teach BowenFirst™ Therapy through Bowen College and hold transformational workshops to achieve these goals.

So, when I share with you that LISTENING to Your body is a game changer in the healing process, I am speaking from expertise and direct experience".

Mission: A Healer in Every Household!

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Unknown: Welcome to the healers cafe, the number one show for

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medical practitioners and holistic healers to have heart

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to heart conversations about their day to day lives while

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sharing their expertise for improving your health and

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wellness.

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Manon Bolliger: Welcome to the Healers Cafe today, I have with

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me Michelle Taylor, and she's the founder of the woman and

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wealth Initiative, a transformative platform aimed at

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empowering women to take control of their financial futures. With

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over a decade of experience in financial services, Michelle is

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committed to closing the wealth gap by providing financial

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education and a supportive community for women from all

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walks of life, from business owners preparing for exit

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strategies to stay at home, moms managing household budgets.

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Michelle's initiatives help women define and achieve their

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version of financial success with confidence and clarity. Now

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some of you may be wondering, what does this have to do with

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health, and how is it all tied in? So I'm going to, first of

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all, welcome you, Michelle, and maybe you could do that little

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tie in. This is the podcast where we're running it. It is

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very tight, so please go ahead.

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Michelle Taylor: It absolutely is. So thank you. I'm excited to

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be here with you, and I feel as passionate about what you talk

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about on this podcast as women in their approach to money, I

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was unfortunately and fortunately exposed to how

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important health is. At a very young age, I had lived my whole

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life and never had any issues, and at 17, was very unexpectedly

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diagnosed with leukemia, so I quickly got a lesson in how

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important priorities are in life and how critical your health is

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to every other component in what we're doing.

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Manon Bolliger: Yeah, that would do it right, yeah. So how do you

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think you got that? I'm just going to call it a lesson.

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There's a million ways. But why is this your path? Why? Why did

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this, in retrospect, happen for you? Wow.

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Michelle Taylor: Well, so growing up, I was a product of a

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divorced home. My parents were very amicable, but approached

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things very differently, and money was something that was

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always a bit of a stressor for my mother. My dad was an

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entrepreneur, so his approach was a little bit different. And

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when I was coming up through my teenage years, I didn't realize

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necessarily how my mom's struggles and stressors around

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this could impact the situation when I got sick, one of the

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first things the doc, the doctor said to me was likely this was

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caused by stress, and I had had a really rough year, I had gone

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through losing a grandparent. I was close to to watching my

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having some some financial struggles with my dad's

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business, and feeling that and absorbing that, and then going

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through a really hard breakup as a teenager, and I internalized

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all of that and had a lot of stress. And so I think at that

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point, I realized, okay, if stress can do this to your body,

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how do I make sure that as I grow up and and build a life of

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my own, that I avoid stress as much as I possibly can? And one

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of those things was around being financially educated and

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comfortable with how money does impact that in your life. So I

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knew that in order for me to make sure that I was avoiding

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financial stress, I wanted to also impact as many women as I

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possibly could being in this field, to learn how it's

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manageable and how to tackle it one step at a time, to take some

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of that stress away from them as well.

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Manon Bolliger: Yeah, no. Makes sense. Yeah. That ties it kind

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of together, right? Yeah, and so. And can you maybe expand

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upon because it's a it's not unusual the situation, but

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having a one parent that's more of an entrepreneur and one that,

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so what is her? She was a stay at home mom, or more. An like an

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employee prior, and then a stay at home mom, or what was her

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financial background and understanding?

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Michelle Taylor: So initially, she was a stay at home mom, and

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then when my parents divorced, she went back to work and she

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went into retail management, and in that, you know, she was just

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very budgeted. She was working with a limited income, and

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wanted to ensure that I wasn't missing out. I was, you know,

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taking dance classes my whole life and doing the little extras

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as much as she could. And I remember growing up and watching

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her sit at the dining room table every Sunday, balancing her

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checkbook, and I could see the stress that it brought. And then

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I could also see the the flip side of that with my dad, who

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was an entrepreneur and approached money very

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differently. You know, money was a tool. He knew that if he

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needed to, he could go out and make more. He felt more in

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control. He made it a little bit more lighthearted, where my mom,

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being an employee, she didn't have the same opportunities to

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go out and truly do something that would have the immediate

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and direct result of more income coming into the house. So I

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learned very quickly that being an employee and very budgeted

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was more stressful, and being an entrepreneur and having the

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ability to go out and create more opportunity seemed like the

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natural path to a little bit more of a stress free life. And

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you know, looking at it through that young girl's eyes, I

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realize now being an entrepreneur myself, how it's

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quite the opposite actually being an entrepreneur very

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stressful. But I think it just speaks to and leans into the

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fact that regardless of what you're doing in your life,

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making sure that stress is limited at all costs, is truly

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the way to build health and wealth in a life of longevity,

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hopefully.

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Manon Bolliger: Well, it's interesting. The you know that

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that statement, it kind of a turnaround there, because a lot

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of entrepreneurs realize that there is definitely a stressful

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aspect to it. I mean, part of it sure you you control your

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schedule. So, yes, you can work 160 hour if you want. You know,

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you can travel sure, like you know, nobody really tells you

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what to do. I mean, you can have great relationships with your

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team, but you don't have to be, you know, that terrible boss. I

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mean, you know, whatever. So yeah, lots of that, but it's

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like you make it what you want it to be, right? And so I think

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part of the lesson, at least, that I can see in it is that

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you, you learn to be flexible and innovative and creative,

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right and and you, I think, you have a more sovereign self

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approach to living life,

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Michelle Taylor: absolutely. And that's one thing you know in

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that I learned that you can't worry about the things that you

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can't control, and it was a valuable lesson at 17 to realize

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so much of this life we can't control. It's how we approach

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it, and that's a hard thing to learn, even as an adult. So I

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talk to people about it, you know, I often say it's one of

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the best and worst things that ever happened to me, because You

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quickly learn how to pivot face a problem head on, focus on a

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solution and how important true health really is to the big

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picture. You know, health does not discriminate, and there are

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things that we can do to set ourselves up for success. But

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again, I feel like that goes back to the Money Story. Having

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a freedom of income allows people to pursue health in ways

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that feel authentic to them. So it always comes back to, how do

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you set someone up with the proper resources to be able to

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live their most healthy life, with or without? A focus on, on

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just the financials, you know? And when I first found out I was

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sick, one of the things I did learn, but through another

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family member that was an entrepreneur, was my uncle. We

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wanted to get a second opinion, because it was very early on,

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and so there were some question marks of what we were really

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dealing with. And my uncle was very successful entrepreneur,

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and he had relationships with doctors at Mayo Clinic, and so

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we had. To get in. We could not but my uncle made a few phone

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calls, and I had an appointment at Mayo Clinic with the best

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doctors, and went right up there. And I was very aware of

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the fact that that happened because of his connections. And

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so again, it was another kind of check on the box of okay,

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building something where you have impact and are kind of in

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charge of your own destiny in a way, right? Not only gives you

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opportunity, but opens up doors because of connection, and

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that's sometimes limited as well when it comes to what you're

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doing in your life?

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Manon Bolliger: Yeah, no. And I think that's a great point,

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because it's true. When you're an employee, you've got your

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boss and and then you've got the whole, you know, infrastructure,

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the the government, the taxes, the you know, all that,

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whatever. There are words for it, but I won't use them on my

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own podcast. But you know, when you're an entrepreneur, I mean,

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sure you have to deal with some of that, but so much more

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flexibility. But it's true, it's it's human connections, it's you

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happen to meet this person who happens to know this, whether

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it's in your field or not, it's just because it's, it's much

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larger and expanse, right? You're growing yourself as a

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person, right? Which has, you know, in this current system,

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financial advantages, but it's just advantages of, of meeting

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more people, more exposure, more more of that, right? So, yeah,

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very interesting. So, what was it like being 17 and being told

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by the medical people that be that this is a stress related

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condition, like, what like? Where did you go with that?

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Michelle Taylor: Yeah, yeah. You know, it's wild, because at that

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age, you know, you think that there wouldn't be that much

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stress, but especially in this day and age, I mean, what we're

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doing with how we're how the growing up experience has

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changed, even since I was little, has placed a ton of

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stress on parents and kiddos in a way that we've never seen

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before, and so for me, I remember being really surprised

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by that and thinking, How do I approach now the rest of my Life

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with as little stress as possible, and one of the things

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that I focused on is looking at a solution instead of a problem.

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So there's somebody that I've heard speak many times and

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gotten the pleasure to work with over the years. His name is Dr,

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Jason Selk, and he talks a lot about being relentless,

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solution, focused, and I felt that I was doing that before I

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even knew what it was. So, you know, I was also taught that as

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growing up in a household, we're Christian and believe that if,

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if you have a worry, you are supposed to give it to God and

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let it kind of work itself out. And so I thought, How do I do

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this? How do I take something that would be stressful and give

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it away, and then focus on what I can control, and I put it into

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practice then, because it was very scary when you hear a

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diagnosis like that, and you realize that it could have been

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a direct result of something that I did. How do I undo that?

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So something like this never happens again, and a lot of it

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was internalized. I didn't talk about it with my parents. We

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didn't have the same access to resources that we do now. So I

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really did just think, what can I control? Let me focus on that.

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So as the lead up to the diagnosis, was extremely

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stressful. I was most afraid at a 17 year old girl of losing my

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hair. You know, I never thought about the option of I could pass

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away from it. I always just thought, I'm in my senior year

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of high school. I'm captain of our cheerleading team. I don't

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want to lose my hair once I knew what the diagnosis was, that's

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when the people around me, my family and friends, that's when

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they got very emotional and upset. But for me, it was

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something strange where I immediately thought, okay,

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there's nothing that I can worry about that's going to change

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this. So now let's just get started on treatment, because I

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can put all of my energy and focus on getting through it so I

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can get back to being a normal teenager again. And I wish I

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could tell you how I knew to do that at 17. That I still to this

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day, don't know, but I'm so thankful that I did.

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Manon Bolliger: Yeah, and you like, you didn't go through the

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blame like, Oh, it's my mom's this, or it's my dad's this, or

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it's because they're divorcing. You just focus on, what can I

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do?

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Michelle Taylor: Basically, what can I do to impact this journey

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moving forward, yeah, pouring your energy into that, instead

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of playing the should have, could have, would have, I think,

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was something that I held on to very tightly. Wow.

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Manon Bolliger: It's amazing. I mean, just, I don't want to take

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your interview time, but I do want to share a little bit my

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story, because there's some similarities to it. When I was

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diagnosed with cancer, I was like, okay, you know, I actually

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I'm going to figure out what to do about it and get myself into

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a position where I'm not living stressfully, but one of the

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choices was not to tell anybody, because I had realized, and I

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was, I was older than you, not 17. But at that point, I had

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realized that if I told my parents, if I told you know,

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that, like the people who love me, you know, their their love

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would have come in. Like, did you try this? Do you do this or

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don't that? Because how do you know that works? And and I

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realized, like, No, I this. I need to focus 100% on me and

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getting through this without other people's care. But you

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know, which comes often in the form of well meaning judgment,

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right? And and recommendations that you know, like, if it's not

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resonating, it's not going to be right for me, right? So then

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avoid them, all the pain and all the tragedy, and then I'll, I'll

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see them when I'm on the other side and I'm fine, and that's

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exactly what happened, right? So, yeah, it's interesting.

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Michelle Taylor: It is. It really is. And I think that, you

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know, for me, something else that I really grasped onto, and

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I don't know if this is what you how you ended up, where you're

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at, is, I tell people all the time. I recognize that

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traditional medicine saved my life at that point, but it

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actually pushed me in a totally different direction when it came

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to health and wellness. Moving forward as an adult, I seek out

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anything I can that is more natural, I go to a functional

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medicine doctor. I, you know, I've been in remission and

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considered cured now for, you know, 2020, 25, years. So I

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don't, I don't go to get those things checked. I don't have to

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anymore, but I really do just focus on the here and now,

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listening to my body, understanding that the things I

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can control, the quality of the food that I eat, what I put into

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my body, what kind of sleep I'm getting. I wear an aura ring.

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You know, I do all of those things because they feel like

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things I can control, versus going to a doctor once a year

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and them putting me on a prescription, and it feels a

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little bit out of my control. So again, it kind of held on to the

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control and recognized, if you break your arm, you go to the

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emergency room. If you have a cough, you don't go get on a Z

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pack, you chew up garlic or take honey and elderberry or your

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vitamins. And again, I think it's because I could, I could

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control and understand that

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Michelle Taylor: Yeah, and that was important, yeah?

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Manon Bolliger: No, I think we did choose different choices at

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that moment, but I had a much earlier lesson in life where

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that made it clear that it really was about taking charge,

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you know, of of your health, which also means your

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environment, but also your emotional environment, you know?

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So it really is, for me, it was like, Okay, this is now the new

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lesson I'm getting to learn through this one. So it's like,

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okay, you know? So, and it's been also 27 years now that I've

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been completely clear, and I don't get checked because I

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don't. I don't associate myself to a so called survivor. It's

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like, no, no, this, this went through me, served its purpose

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for me and and I'm ready to learn, you know, new things

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Michelle Taylor: a girl after my own heart. It is not part of

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what we identify with. No Exactly. And you know, going

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through this again, tying it back to what the financial

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impact can be, I'm sure that the choices that you've made, you

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recognize that really good health and wellness is much more

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expensive than doing things in the traditional way. And so, you

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know, I encourage everybody to think through what is most

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important to you. I talk about health all the time, and how do

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you make sure that you're planning and building a life

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that will allow you to, you know, buy organic food and shop

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at a farm and know where your food is coming from. And, you

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know, look into things like Infrared Saunas or all of these

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things. And it goes back to how do you become the architect of a

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life that will allow you to focus on the things that are

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important, and it comes back to financial capability. So how do

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we make sure that women all over this country are having the same

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conversations and access to the same resources, mentorship

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material to truly be in a place of power and make the best

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decisions for themselves and their future.

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Manon Bolliger: Yeah, no. And I think, I mean, now we're, you

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know, we're seeing it big time, you know, all this sort of

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financial entrapment, and you see it in the educational

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system, you know, just creating followers that listen, that

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don't question, that go with some people call it the flow,

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the prism. But anyway, you know, but it's, it's, how do you get

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to the the mind? You know, like when you said to yourself, you

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don't know how you knew I have the same kind of thing. It was

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like a knowing and a deep knowing, and then it was a trust

00:23:12
and and then I spent years perfecting my intuition, because

00:23:17
when it came to money, you know, I would say, Oh, I'm so lucky

00:23:22
because, you know, I, let's say I would, I would live in a

00:23:25
house, and then I would need to move, but it was in the right

00:23:28
direction at the right time, and then, boom, the asset grew,

00:23:33
right but it's not because I spent, I mean, I've spent hours

00:23:37
and hours and hours and hours on, on my Passion and on, you

00:23:41
know, medicine and on, you know, helping people get better. On

00:23:45
real estate, I spend no time but, boom, it's like, you know?

00:23:49
So I keep saying, Oh, I'm so lucky, you know. But the thing

00:23:54
is, how do you get to the into the mind that knows, like, you

00:23:59
know, I in health, I'm I'm so lucky, not because I knew all

00:24:02
this knowledge, but because something told me, you know,

00:24:06
follow your your intuition. And, sorry, it's a very long

00:24:12
question, but I, you know, I tend to explain it all out,

00:24:15
cushion it with everything so that we can get to the point.

00:24:18
But anyway, I'll try and, you know, get clear here. But in

00:24:23
finances, how do you know, like this, intuition, you know?

00:24:28
Because you could say, Oh yeah, you could put your money in a

00:24:32
bank, in a savings account. Well, today, that would be very

00:24:37
risky, right? You talk to some people in the banking industry,

00:24:42
and you tell them, you know, what? About silver? And they

00:24:45
look, oh, nothing will ever happen. It's like, Aha. It's

00:24:50
like, not exactly what's happening. You know, or you you

00:24:55
you know. Like people will say, Oh, you gamble if I take risks,

00:24:58
but they're not. Risks. You know, it's, it's, what do you

00:25:04
call it? It's, well, it is a risk. Life is a risk, I mean,

00:25:11
but that doesn't mean that, that, you know, you win some and

00:25:16
you lose some, it's, and how do you get to that place in finance

00:25:21
where you know like you do in health, that's my question. I

00:25:27
think

00:25:27
Michelle Taylor: it again, is doing your own due diligence,

00:25:31
understanding the tools that are part of the game, so finding

00:25:37
people that seem to have done what you would like to do, and

00:25:41
asking questions, having the conversations. And I think that

00:25:45
a lot of our intuition and our gut feelings on things really

00:25:50
come down to trusting yourself. And it's hard to trust yourself

00:25:53
on financial decisions if you don't understand the game that

00:25:57
you're playing. And so it's starts as simply as knowing what

00:26:03
your money is doing for you, knowing what you're spending,

00:26:07
what you need to bring in, understanding that it doesn't

00:26:12
have to be a big choice. It has to be a choice, a choice to move

00:26:17
forward so small intentional steps create a financial

00:26:23
snowball that will change your life. And it's very intimidating

00:26:27
for somebody who's never understood like the world that

00:26:31
you're living in to say, I'm not going to trust what I've been

00:26:36
told to trust blindly, dive in and learn about health and truly

00:26:42
understand what's out there. It's the same thing with

00:26:44
finances. If you understand that your money needs to grow for

00:26:48
you, but you don't understand how the stock market works, that

00:26:51
could be very intimidating and really difficult to trust your

00:26:54
gut. So I say that in finances, just like in health, you've got

00:26:59
to start by asking the questions and understanding the game

00:27:03
pieces that are on the board. Once you do that small right,

00:27:09
next steps change the outcome of the game.

00:27:14
Manon Bolliger: Yeah, yeah, yeah, step by step, yeah, yeah.

00:27:23
Michelle Taylor: Further you go down the ladder, the more and

00:27:26
more you learn it, just like with health. What starts out is

00:27:29
saying, well, maybe I want to look into different vitamins,

00:27:33
Manon Bolliger: right

00:27:35
Michelle Taylor: to, you know, further and further down, and

00:27:38
before you know it, you have a podcast talking about true

00:27:41
health and how to get there,

00:27:43
Manon Bolliger: yeah, yeah, yeah, no, it's, it's very

00:27:48
interesting. So do you do you? I mean, you do it step by step,

00:27:53
but how do you deal with, like, what some people, there are no

00:27:59
mistakes. It's always experiences and opportunities.

00:28:03
But you know, when you when you feel that you made, on some

00:28:09
level, a mistake in the present moment where you're going, oh my

00:28:13
god, you know, I had a feeling, but you know, I didn't pay

00:28:18
attention, or I, you know, I really trusted them, because

00:28:25
blah, blah, blah, you know, usually that's where we go

00:28:27
wrong, right? It's, it's usually it involves more than yourself,

00:28:32
right? How do, how have you learned to deal with that?

00:28:38
Michelle Taylor: Just like with health, focus on what you can

00:28:40
control. So with money and with health decisions, once the

00:28:45
decision is made, oftentimes you can't unwind what's been done

00:28:50
right. Can't put toothpaste back in the tube. So when you make a

00:28:55
financial decision that doesn't go the way that you hoped it

00:28:59
would, or that you feel that you were taken advantage of. I would

00:29:04
encourage anybody to not get stuck in the should have, could

00:29:06
have, would have, it's now okay. How do I how do I correct this?

00:29:10
How do I course correct? So for example, if someone is listening

00:29:14
to advice and some and they're hearing only focus on paying

00:29:19
down any kind of consumer debt that should be your number one

00:29:22
focus, but they aren't building an emergency savings account at

00:29:25
the same time, if something happens, they've paid down so

00:29:30
much of this debt, but then something unexpected happens,

00:29:33
and now they have to go back to putting it on a credit card.

00:29:36
They may feel like, what was it all for? So the next best step

00:29:41
is to figure out how to tweak what you're doing and avoid that

00:29:46
the next time talk to people. So in that case, I tell everyone,

00:29:50
live in an and universe. If you have $100 $1 $10 a month

00:29:55
to do something with, don't do everything to one pay. Down your

00:30:00
debt and invest and save so that no matter what happens, you have

00:30:05
got a lever to pull and you can't predict the future. So how

00:30:13
do you prepare for the future and not worry about the things

00:30:18
that you can't control? Yeah?

00:30:22
Manon Bolliger: Yeah. I mean, it's very similar, right? It

00:30:26
seems simple,

00:30:27
Michelle Taylor: but so if you are somebody you know that did a

00:30:31
financial, I mean, I'm sorry, a medical procedure or got

00:30:37
treatment that afterward, you say, Oh, wow. Like I could have

00:30:40
done this right with the leukemia at 17. It because of

00:30:45
that. I had to go through IVF to have my children, which was my

00:30:48
number one goal in life, was to be a mom. And it was very easy

00:30:52
for me to say in that moment, that decision I made led to this

00:30:57
because of the drugs and the poison that it was being in my

00:31:01
system. I can't undo it, but I can make better decisions moving

00:31:07
forward. Of learning what side effects are, learning how to

00:31:11
treat things holistically that aren't going to affect me in the

00:31:15
same way, God forbid anything else happen. Same thing with

00:31:18
finances, yeah, yeah. Learn from the past, self correct a little

00:31:24
bit, and lean on people who have learned the same or similar

00:31:29
lessons ahead of you. We all know those people.

00:31:33
Manon Bolliger: Yeah, no, I think it's true. And what about

00:31:36
the the box that often exists with and I brought it up as if

00:31:40
it was a valid box. But the idea of the employee mentality

00:31:46
compared to the entrepreneur mentality in that so called Box

00:31:51
of the employee first of all, is it really a box, or is it just

00:31:58
looking at, you know, you meet other people and they're doing

00:32:01
it differently. And then you say, hey, you know what? Maybe

00:32:04
I'll put some of them funds into this. That's not very employee,

00:32:11
like, you know, gosh, maybe I'm not in that mentality fully. Or,

00:32:15
you know,

00:32:17
Michelle Taylor: not everybody is meant to be an entrepreneur.

00:32:20
So it's not trying to emulate someone in a way that is

00:32:26
uncomfortable for you. It's a way of saying, again, taking

00:32:31
control of the situation. So if you are an employee, and you

00:32:36
enjoy being an employee, you don't want to take the risk of

00:32:39
being an entrepreneur, but you want to improve what tools you

00:32:44
have in your toolbox to live a life that may look a little

00:32:46
different, ask the questions to stay in your comfort zone, but

00:32:52
again, we have so many resources available to us. How do I

00:32:57
increase my income without becoming a business owner, how

00:33:01
do I increase what's coming into my home? Well, maybe it is

00:33:05
evaluating what you're spending in areas that don't resonate

00:33:10
with you anymore or aren't as important to you, and how do you

00:33:15
maybe take a little bit less of or how take more of your money

00:33:23
home by putting a little bit less in a retirement account

00:33:26
that you can't touch until you're 59 and a half and you're

00:33:29
30 and you have this big dream, but you're over funding or

00:33:33
maximizing a retirement account, maybe that's not in alignment

00:33:37
with your goals. So again, it all comes back to resources and

00:33:42
conversation and not trying to do something that feels

00:33:46
uncomfortable, but getting comfortable, understanding the

00:33:51
players, understanding what resources you have at your

00:33:55
fingertips to go after, what's important to you. And I think

00:34:00
that on the outside, being an entrepreneur feels a lot more

00:34:05
like a freedom. But there's also the consideration of, you know,

00:34:11
your business is never turned off. I have phone calls or text

00:34:17
messages very late at night or on the weekends and and then I

00:34:21
have to make the choice. Is this a fire that I have to address

00:34:25
now for my own well being? Or can I wait until Monday? So life

00:34:30
is full of these choices, whichever path we're on. So I

00:34:33
think it's just important to find the the path that feels the

00:34:36
best, to keep your health and wellness at the forefront and

00:34:43
stay focused on always having conversations with people that

00:34:48
seem to have learned lessons you may have not learned.

00:34:52
Manon Bolliger: Yeah, I think that's exactly it I was gonna

00:34:55
say. I'll leave the last words to you. The those are perfect.

00:34:58
But. Our time is up, but thank you so much for spending the

00:35:02
time and having this conversation.

00:35:05
Michelle Taylor: It was my absolute pleasure to be here.

00:35:08
Well, I

00:35:08
Manon Bolliger: guess when it comes to finance, money or

00:35:13
health and well being probably the biggest lesson, and I think

00:35:19
that was very well addressed, is the here and now, the you know,

00:35:24
work with the things you can control and the things you

00:35:28
can't, don't put them in your stressor zone. What if? What if

00:35:32
I could? What if this? What if that, you know, a lot of people

00:35:35
spend time in that which is a stressor. It doesn't matter, you

00:35:42
know, in what domain you you do that in, but it definitely has

00:35:47
an impact on your health. So I loved just simply, you know,

00:35:52
control the things you can, and then obviously, you know, it's

00:35:57
an attitude thing. And you know, life is happening for you. It's

00:36:00
for us to learn. You know, from we're not presented things that

00:36:06
we can't incorporate and learn from if we choose to. And you

00:36:12
know, we're not necessarily supposed to be here past the

00:36:16
time that we're not so it's about just relaxing into what is

00:36:20
so anyways, a very light conversation given the health

00:36:26
implications.

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