In this episode of The Healers Cafe Manon speaks with Dayna Wylder, discussed her book "Unlearn Disease, Relearn Well-being," which chronicles her journey with multiple sclerosis and energy healing. She introduced bioresonance scanning, which provides a snapshot of the energy body, and demonstrated its use on Tony, who has post-neuralgia pain.
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Highlights from today's episode include:
Dayna: Explains how bioresonance scanning reads the body's energy blueprint to reveal hidden patterns behind symptoms like post-shingles nerve pain.
Dayna: Guides Tony through a remote frequency-based treatment using intention, breath, and specific organ-focused frequencies (lungs, kidneys, spleen, abdomen, Liberator).
Manon: Connects Tony's current pain to past trauma and the pandemic period, highlighting how emotional suppression and grief can manifest as long-lasting physical symptoms despite multiple previous therapies.
ABOUT DAYNA WYLDER:
Dayna Wylder is an energy healing practitioner, author, and guide devoted to helping people reconnect with their bodies and rediscover their innate capacity for healing. After years of living in a state of disconnection shaped by trauma, chronic stress, and nervous system dysregulation, she was diagnosed with multiple sclerosis — a moment that became not an ending, but an awakening.
Unwilling to accept a life defined solely by symptoms or limitations, she began a deep exploration into the mind–body connection, subtle energy, and ancient healing systems. Through this journey, she discovered the profound wisdom of the five koshas — the layers of the human experience described in yogic philosophy — and began to understand that true healing must occur not just in the physical body, but across the energetic, emotional, mental, and spiritual dimensions of being.
Her work now blends modern neuroscience, frequency and sound healing, somatic awareness, and biofield tuning with Eastern and Western wisdom traditions. She draws inspiration from pioneers in the fields of longevity, nervous system regulation, and consciousness studies, while grounding her approach in lived experience, intuition, and compassion.
Dayna is the author of an upcoming book - Unlearn Dis-ease Relearn Well-being - that shares both her deeply personal story and the practical, integrative tools she used to change her relationship with her body and her diagnosis. Her message is not about "fixing" what is broken, but about restoring communication between the body, mind, and soul.
Through private sessions, group sound baths, healing circles, and online teachings, she empowers others to shift from fear into curiosity, from resistance into listening, and from survival into wholeness. Her work is an invitation: to soften, to reconnect, and to awaken the healer within.
Core purpose/passion: I am here to offer hope and shift what people believe is possible. My work moves beyond treating illness and into restoring alignment between body, mind, and spirit. Through energy medicine, sound, and conscious living, I support those who feel sick or disconnected in reconnecting with their natural intelligence. Aligned living then becomes the path not just to healing, but to preventing future suffering and expanding human potential. This is not about fixing what's broken — it's about remembering what has always been whole.
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ABOUT MANON BOLLIGER, RBHT, FCAH:
As a retired Naturopath 1992-2021, I saw an average of 150 patients per week and have helped people ranging from rural farmers in Nova Scotia to stressed out CEOs in Toronto to tri-athletes here in Vancouver.
My resolve to educate, empower and engage people to take charge of their own health is evident in my best-selling books: 'What Patients Don't Say if Doctors Don't Ask: The Mindful Patient-Doctor Relationship' and 'A Healer in Every Household: Simple Solutions for Stress'. and What if Your Body is Smarter than You Think? I am the Founder & CEO of The Bowen College Inc. which teaches BowenFirst™ Therapy and holds transformational workshops to achieve these goals.
So, when I share with you that LISTENing to Your body is a game changer in the healing process, I am speaking from expertise and direct experience".
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Manon Bolliger: Welcome to the Healers Cafe, and today I have a
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second episode with Dayna Wylder, and she's going to talk
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about because we didn't get a chance last time, to talk about
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her book that's available, and also to demonstrate what a
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treatment is actually like. And we have Tony, whom you might be
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familiar with, because he's been on my podcast in the last six
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months or so, you know, demonstrating different type of
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techniques. And you know, again, not all techniques. It's not
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that they're they work or they don't work. It's that, is it the
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right time? Is it the right moment for this type of therapy
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to work? And why I love introducing different work, some
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of which I'm familiar with, some which I'm not, is because it's
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really up to us to find that synchronicity that that gel with
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the therapy that we choose and the therapist that might be
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delivering it. So I'm really thrilled Adena, that you are
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doing this and you're with us today. So why don't we just you
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know you know, you can say a few words about you, but this is
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episode two, and then your book.
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Dayna Wylder: Yeah, so my my book, and both my business and
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how I got into this really was born out of necessity, because
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my own health really took a dive. And, you know, the first I
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would say, 10 years of my own multiple sclerosis journey, I
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did pretty well. So I didn't really fully respect it. I
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didn't really understand how things could go. And then five
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years ago, I really had a major relapse That really shook my
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reality, and really found that none of the solutions being
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offered to me were something that felt aligned or that I was
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willing to do. And so I had to really start seeking my own ways
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of healing, and that came in different waves for me, first
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with the physical body, diet and exercise, yoga, realizing I
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plateaued there, and then ending up having to treat the energy
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body. And then once the energy body and I put the energy there,
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I still found that there was times where I stopped healing,
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and then I really got into where I'm at. Now, what we're going to
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be doing today, which is bioresonance scanning, which is
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a way to take a snapshot of the energy body to see what in the
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blueprint in the energy field is out of alignment. Because once
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we get the information governing the energy correctly to do the
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biochemistry in the body, we're really getting a whole picture.
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And that's my book, my book, unlearned disease, relearned.
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Well being is my own journey, woven into all of these
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modalities, and it takes you through the five koshas, or
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layers of the body, as written by yoga, which is physical, body
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energy, body mental, body wisdom, body and ending in a
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bliss body, which is really that higher consciousness, purpose
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and divinity that we all have
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Manon Bolliger: and and where can people get the book?
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Dayna Wylder: Book is on Amazon right now. You can also get
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links to it through my website, at energy over matter.com,
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Manon Bolliger: okay, and Amazon, is it in Canada or us or
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both?
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Dayna Wylder: It's actually both. So all over the world.
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Amazon from any country you're in, it should be available.
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Manon Bolliger: Okay, great, thank you. All right, so, yeah,
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I guess we could maybe just explain that we we sent in a
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voice scan, and we filled out a questionnaire, and that was just
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sent prior to this interview, not to waste time doing that.
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But it took very little time to do the voice. It was basically
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counting numbers so that the computer got the voice, so that
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that's as far all I know. So I'll leave. I'll let you lead
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this and talk to Tony if there's questions.
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Dayna Wylder: So the whole process really starts by just
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creating an account, and then once you have an energy account,
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and there's all kinds of amazing things under there, I don't know
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if I express that to you guys as well too. There is bioenergetic
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recipes, and there's imprinted music that deals with different
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topics of maybe trauma or letting go or any kind of
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emotion. And there's also products available to purchase
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there. Now the voice scan is something that's called quantum
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electrodynamics. It can be done either through the voice or
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through a handheld device where you just place your hand on it,
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and what it's doing is hundreds of times over 10 seconds, it's
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going back and forth, reading the frequency that you're
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admitting and comparing that to the expected frequency. And the
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company I work for is about 40 years now into research, and
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they have about 240 different points mapped. So this could be
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an organ, this could be a meridian system and emotion.
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It's different layers of. Sort of energetic blueprints. And
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what we're looking at here is to just get a snapshot of the
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energy at a certain moment in time, to look at what kind of
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patterns, what we might find there, that might be creating
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symptoms upstream from where you're finding them, and things
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that you might not have had insight. So we first do by
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detecting and then we're going to use a device for providing
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correct frequency back into the body. And then there's also
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products available that go with it, which is imprinted
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frequency. So this is water that's been structured. It has
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colloidal minerals put into it to help with cellular uptake.
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And then it has frequency play to it. So whether we're doing it
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directly through a device or by drinking the liquid remedies,
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what we're doing is information therapy. So instead of a
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pharmaceutical approach, where we're taking something physical,
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we're treating physical with physical. In this case, we're
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using energy to correct the information in the body and then
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downstream all things will work better. So exercise, diet,
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lifestyle, all those other things. This doesn't supersede
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it. It doesn't erase it. It just works with it. It's kind of the
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physics that goes downstream to everything else. So once I had
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your scan, and the reason why I got you to do the voice scan
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first before the intake form, is because I really like for the
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scan to be sort of independent of any information that I
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already had about you, because, you know, energy can always be
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have intentions applied to it too, because our thoughts are a
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type of energy as well too. So I'm just going to share a screen
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here so that we can go through the scan together.
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Are you guys seeing my screen now? Yep, that's perfect.
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Sorry, I'm just going to need to forgive me for the tech.
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Manon Bolliger: I can take that part out. Don't worry.
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Dayna Wylder: Yeah, I usually do things in person, as opposed to
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just remotely. Okay, so the first screen that we're looking
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at when we look at the scan here, and just so you know,
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there's a lot of information contained here, and you're going
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to get the report when we're done, and you're going to go
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through it in more detail than we can cover right here, because
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even in an hour consultation, there's always way more
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information than we can cover. So and I also just wanted to
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just make a caveat here too, that this is not a diagnostic
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tool, so I don't diagnose anything here. What we're really
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just looking at is the energy patterns in the body, but often
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what we see is they correlate and they overlap with the
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diagnosis is that we have. So in this case, Tony, just want to
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explain to people, just quickly what it is that you have and you
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were suffering with, yeah,
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Tony: excuse me. So it started off I had shingles and that,
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that went away quite quickly with Manon doing homeopathy. And
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then after that, it's kind of called post neuralgia. And it's,
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it's pain all all the way down my right hand side and in my
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ear. And basically it feels like somebody sticking knitting
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needles in me, like, I'm very visual like that, or, yeah,
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it's, it's been, really, it's very painful, and I had that
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quite consistently throughout the day
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Dayna Wylder: between so I think first I'm sorry to hear that
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that's going on, and I think when I looked at your scan, that
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we can definitely see Some things that are kind of aligning
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with what's going on with you. So the first screen that we look
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at is energy source. And energy source is really about how we
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gain energy from the outside, so external energy, and how we
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bring it into the body, because everything in life is an energy
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exchange, and without energy, we die. So these ones in the
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beginning, when we're looking at it, are the fundamentals, sort
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of our diet and bringing, you know, through chemistry into the
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body, movement, hydration, oxygenation, how we're sleeping
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in the day and the night. And then further down on here we're
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looking at things like the big field alignment. So this is more
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about our relationship with the bigger energies of the earth. So
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the polarities, the equilibrium of the Earth, the axis of North
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being at the top and south at the bottom, matching also in our
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head, that we're more negative at the top and so a positive at
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the bottom. We're looking here for priorities, which will show.
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As purple or as these orange ones. When you have three bars
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of orange or solid all the way across in purple, nothing comes
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up here as a major priority for you, which means that all of the
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ways in which you're bringing in energy that you're, you know,
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capable of controlling, you're doing a good job. And I did see
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on your intake form that you you do exercise, and you do eat
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well, and you avoid lots of toxic things. And I sure that
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helps having your wife be a naturopath, and knowing how to
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really like, take care of the body. So there's nothing really
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on this screen to discuss you could really like if you want,
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you when you're going home and you're looking at these things
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afterwards when you click on them, just to be aware that it
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brings you to another screen, which will discuss that that
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energy field, and things that could potentially go wrong with
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it, and solutions that you might have to improve it. But because
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of time today, I'm not going to go into the orange ones. I'm
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going to try to just stick with the purple priorities. So the
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next screen that we come to is our energy strength screen. And
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this one is, if anybody's familiar here, with germination
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theory. So this is the idea that when we first develop in utero,
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that that source, the very first one here, that's like the the
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the egg being fertilized. So that's that first spark of life
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that comes. And then as that baby develops in utero, what are
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all of the things that are developing at the same time? So
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our heart imprinter is developing next, and then we're
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going through to the cells starting to divide. We get a
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nervous system, our blood starts to circulate, and so on, and
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this is how we end up when when you look at Chinese medicine,
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linking things like our liver, our gallbladder and our eyes,
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even though they're not beside each other, necessarily touching
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in our physical body, they were all developing at the same time
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as we were developing in our mothers. So they energetically
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share a similar pattern and frequency. So this is where we
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get our first purple for you. And we get this in our in the
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lung driver. So the driver is now about the strength. It's the
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driver of the energy. So how strong is the energy going
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through this part of your body? And although we didn't have a
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purple one on the energy source, you do see that there is a
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little bit of yellow here under oxygen, so it is showing that we
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are having, you're having an issue bringing proper oxygen in,
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and that's affecting the drive and how much energy is in the
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lung. Now, the lungs, like I seen in your intake form that
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you do exercise and you do yoga, so I'm sure that you are
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familiar with diaphragmatic breathing, but one of the things
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that happens when we have a lot of pain is we tend to hold our
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breath because pain is constricting. Pain is holding
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and it's intense when we're having it, and when that's
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happening, the chance that we're taking a really big belly breath
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that's slow and rhythmic, it really diminishes. And so there
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was something here, just about the vitality of the breath and
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the amount of oxygen that you're bringing in, that really would
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be beneficial to try. I know one of the strategies you're using
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when the pain is to get up and walk around, but maybe adding to
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that, really trying to breathe into the pain, and to try to
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really keep in mind that oxygen is the like. It's probably 90%
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of the energy that we get from the outside source, right is to
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bring oxygen into the body and moving it around. And when we
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fail to do that adequately, it really affects everything
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downstream, because oxygen is going to go through the blood
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and then into every single organ in the body, so it is really a
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primary thing. And when we see problems with the lung driver,
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it tends to have low vitality, so energy will get very low. And
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there's a lot of immune function done in the lungs as well. And
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so immune system will also get compromised. And now with
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shingles, you know, it is a virus, the herpes virus, that
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once we have it as children, as children, as chicken pox, that
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does come up again in these other kinds of forms. And so
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there is something there to do with your immune system, and it
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manifests it again in shingles. And now, once we have an issue
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in the lungs, it can really lower the immune response
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ongoing as well, too. So something you know, just as a
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practice, maybe to do at home for this would be tracing the
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lung meridian. So right in the you know this, this, this
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indent, sort of between your shoulder and your chest. When
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you press into it, you'll feel a natural indent there, and
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sometimes it's actually a little bit of pain, and especially when
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you have a problem with your lung, when you press into there,
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it tends to be a bit tender. And so you can always do just as a
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practice to try to bring strength back into the lung.
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Driver is massage. That trigger point, that acupressure point,
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and after you massage it for about 30 seconds, you're just
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going to trace down the inside of your arm and all the way down
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and out your thumb. And you just trace that a couple times. So
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from that point and you trace it all the way down your arm and
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out your thumb, and just repeating that maybe three times
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and both sides, and that'll bring energy into the area. So
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we are going to do treatments today with energy devices, but
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this is something that's free and accessible, and you could do
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it multiple times throughout the day to try to bring new energy
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into the lung. Now, the only other thing that showed up here,
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and there's a couple of them that, again, they're not purple,
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so I won't spend a lot of time there, but they do show up as
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orange. Is kidney, spleen and bone, and when I look at this as
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a pattern, now, there's a lot on your skin about the energetic
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terrain for immunity. So kidneys has a lot to do with energy as
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well. It's where we keep our store Jing. So the Chinese say
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this is where you get your ancestral energy reserves from.
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And when we get sick and depleted, we kind of deplete
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that Jing. And it is something that, when I looked at this
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scan, your adrenals come up, and adrenals is and we see it here
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in the kidneys coming in the adrenals, that this is something
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that when we have fight or flight or we're stressed or
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we're worrying about something, it tends to to activate, and we
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produce a lot of cortisol. And when we're doing that, we're not
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really producing the other hormones in the body, because
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we're spending a lot of time in this one spot. Now also with the
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kidneys. That's a lot with energy we see the spleen. And
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spleen is also another big energy organ in the body, so and
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it has a lot to do with immunity as well. So some of the things
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here is like learned immunity, the spleen is also your lymph
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and cleaning of blood and production of antibodies. So
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again, we're seeing something here with the immune system
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being activated for you. And although bone does a lot of
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things in the bone, we're also that's where you make your
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immune cells and your red blood cells. So seeing the bone show
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up there as well, says to me, again, something with your
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immune system, and that learned immune system. So when you're
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having chicken pox and you're younger and it's coming back as
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shingles, that there's something energetically stuck that didn't
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quite process through, which could be why you're still having
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a residual effect, even though the virus itself isn't active
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anymore, but you're having this neurological pain as a result.
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So when you're going to look at this later, I want you just to
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also pay attention that when you click on these, that not only
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are you getting the write up at the bottom, but you're also
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getting sorry I'm just going to move this.
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You get these little windows over here, like drop down menu,
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and you can move through these because it's giving you all
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kinds of more information. So the next one, when we move one
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screen over, now we're an energy flow, and energy flow, to me, is
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more akin to the meridians. So now we're dealing directly with
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the organs and the meridian systems that correspond with
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them. And you didn't have purple showing up on this one. There's
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only some orange. But what I thought was interesting is that
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you got the neurosensory large intestine. And lung is a yin
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organ, and it is paired with the large intestine, which is the
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Yang partner for the lung, and this one comes up here as well.
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And the neurosensory part of this is you also have, like the
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when we see here the dermis, so this is the skin, and it is the
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a lot of our nerves. So 90% of our nerves are actually sensory
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nerves going up to the brain, and only 10% are the motor
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neurons going out. So when we have an issue here within the
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nerves and the senses in the dermis, that can be where this
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prickling the sensation of pain is, can be coming from, and it
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is related to the large intestine, because it's linked
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to the lung and immunity. And when we think of these things
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energetically, now and emotionally, the lungs is
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related a lot with grief and sadness and holding on to those
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kinds of emotions. And it's also about what do we take in? So
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it's really at the top of the system, like we eat, we swallow
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the air comes to our lungs, and then the other system is eating
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and swallowing food, and it ends at large intestine out to the
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colon. So both of these systems are about, what are we taking
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in, what are we assimilating and what are we ready to let go of?
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Because the lungs need to let go of the carbon dioxide and the
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the intestines need to let go and. Of the waste products on
00:20:01
the other end. So there is a sense, sometimes of emotionally
00:20:06
learning how to take in what was only necessary, make sense of
00:20:09
it, and then learning to let go of it on the other end. So, you
00:20:13
know the emotional stuff, I'm not, you know it's it's hard for
00:20:16
me to say, because I'm not in your head, and I don't know you
00:20:18
well enough, you'll have to kind of make sense for yourself some
00:20:21
of the emotional components as we go through but I wanted to
00:20:26
just point out some of the places where we start to see
00:20:32
things light up on this little man over here. So when we're
00:20:36
looking here now, instead of purples and oranges, we're
00:20:39
looking for number score. So when we have a zero, that's low,
00:20:43
and four is the high. So we're looking really for threes and
00:20:46
fours on this to see where things are kind of lighting up.
00:20:50
And I noticed when I was looking at yours that we had a so things
00:20:56
in the colon again, and also in the sinus and in the lungs. So
00:21:01
this one we're seeing here, we have three in the ascendant
00:21:04
colon, the lymphatics, which also was an orange when we come
00:21:08
over to here, we're seeing a lot in the cranial sinus field and
00:21:12
in the frontal sinus field. And when you're talking about this
00:21:16
pain being up and around your ears and this part of your sinus
00:21:21
on the side. These are places that are lighting up also on
00:21:26
here. And that was kind of consistent when I was looking
00:21:29
through it. Some of the ones that maybe it didn't. And
00:21:32
there's your adrenals again, also showing up with a four. So
00:21:35
even though this wasn't lit up as something that we were
00:21:38
showing a purple for, it's still really informative. If you go
00:21:41
through this and start to just click on things and really have
00:21:44
a look, especially because Manon, you're really going to
00:21:47
understand this, you know, with your background, all these
00:21:52
connections and what this could really mean for Tony, and ways
00:21:55
that you can now support him at home too, because there's really
00:21:58
a wealth of information beyond one hour of our time together.
00:22:02
So yes, we're looking for the purples. That's what we're going
00:22:05
to give treatments for, and that's what we're going to give
00:22:07
emphasutical products for. But there's really so many layers
00:22:11
here of things that are just kind of connecting. So the next
00:22:17
one we move to now is to the mind body, and this is now where
00:22:21
we start getting less in the physical and the organs and
00:22:24
meridians and more into the mind. So these first four here,
00:22:30
which one is purple for you, are different types of holograms in
00:22:34
the brain. So yours is lighting up under the brain stem. So
00:22:38
brainstem is the most primal part of our brain, the older
00:22:42
parts of our brain. And there's a lot to do here with, like the
00:22:46
feeling of survival and safety, almost, you'd think of here,
00:22:49
like the Root Chakra, almost like this is kind of like the
00:22:53
origins and those most primal of kind of feelings. And the
00:22:57
hologram here just means that what is the kind of overarching
00:23:01
map or frequency our mind is sending into our body. And when
00:23:06
we get stuck here, that hologram keeps projecting these feelings
00:23:10
into the field, and our thoughts and our emotions end up
00:23:14
manifesting as physical symptoms in the body. So again, when
00:23:19
you're looking at this, we can click on to these, these side
00:23:25
things, and we come over here. And again, we're looking at the
00:23:27
numbers, so we're seeing which ones are lighting up for you. So
00:23:30
we have isolation as one emotion, fairness, feeling
00:23:35
vulnerable. And again, if you click on one of these, when you
00:23:40
go down to the bottom, you'll get a little write up about
00:23:43
this. And so I would really take the time to go through these,
00:23:46
because I think that for a lot of people, we might
00:23:49
underestimate how much our thoughts shape our emotions, and
00:23:55
how much the emotions then create a physical cascade of a
00:23:58
chemical reaction in the body that actually really blankets
00:24:02
us, either in healing hormones or unhealthy ones, and so the
00:24:06
mind really has a profound effect on whether we heal or we
00:24:12
get better or we don't. Another one that lit up for you here is
00:24:16
liberator, and Liberator is one of the they're called feel good
00:24:21
Intraceuticals. So they're ones that are just available without
00:24:24
a practitioner. So I don't have to scan somebody in order for
00:24:27
them to buy these ones. They can just make an account and then
00:24:30
just buy them online. And the feel good Intraceuticals are
00:24:33
kind of more emotionally based, or like something just like
00:24:37
cold, flu immunity, or you need something help with sleep. So
00:24:41
the Liberator one is an overarching intraceutical That
00:24:46
sort of liberates the the stored trauma in the mind. So whatever
00:24:51
you've been sort of holding back, suppressing, maybe things
00:24:55
that were in the subconscious that hadn't come to your
00:24:58
awareness, and a. Lot of people, when they take the Liberator
00:25:01
infoceutical, they find that they have really vivid dreams,
00:25:04
or they even start to daydream more frequently. Or kind of
00:25:08
insights might come. And I know that you mentioned you
00:25:10
meditated, so probably when you're meditating, you might
00:25:13
have some more profound insights, or things that sort of
00:25:17
come to you when you're taking the liberator, because it kind
00:25:20
of takes off that dampening that we do sometimes when we're kind
00:25:24
of, you know, not really facing maybe, or not really bringing up
00:25:27
to the surface what's going on. And on this one on this screen
00:25:32
when we're in the mind body. Now there's also different tabs
00:25:35
going across the top here. So we click into the emotion and the
00:25:40
one that comes up in the positive emotion, and I not
00:25:43
really sure I agree with the way they categorize these as
00:25:45
positive and negative, because I don't really think that there
00:25:48
are good and bad emotions. They just there's just emotions they
00:25:52
suit the situation they're in. The problem comes when we
00:25:55
ruminate or we stay stuck on them. Our goal is just to feel
00:25:58
them, acknowledge them, and let them go. But love shows up for
00:26:01
you. And I just want to make another caveat here. With the
00:26:04
emotions, it doesn't always mean that you have not enough, or it
00:26:09
could be too much, right these things. That's why you got to
00:26:11
look at it with your own intuition and kind of see how
00:26:13
these things come to you. What it's just saying is that in your
00:26:16
energy field, love stood out more than the other ones, and
00:26:20
sometimes even with these and I've seen this happen. I had a
00:26:23
friend whose child passed away last year, and because of my own
00:26:28
scenario of having lost a child too, I was very much grieving
00:26:31
for him. And for months, grief kept showing up on my scan, but
00:26:35
it wasn't even my grief. It was for somebody else. And I've also
00:26:38
seen it come up for people who are just really into a good
00:26:41
book, and they were reading about a character, and then that
00:26:44
emotion that they felt for that character was in their scan. So
00:26:47
again, using intuition on these ones, and then on the negative
00:26:52
flip side of this, grief was showing up. And I don't know if
00:26:57
that resonates any of these in any way to you, but grief also
00:27:01
is really linked with the lungs, and we've seen already some
00:27:04
issues with the lungs and immunity.
00:27:06
And then moving on to the next screen, we have energetic
00:27:13
immunity. And I'm sure people maybe that listen to your show
00:27:17
might be familiar with the difference between germ theory
00:27:20
and terrain theory, but if not, I'll just give a little synopsis
00:27:25
of it. Yeah, so germ theory really says that everything is a
00:27:30
pathogen or a virus that's attacking us, and that it all,
00:27:34
you know, really just comes down to we have bad genes and we have
00:27:37
viruses that come in our body, and then we're kind of at the
00:27:39
mercy of what happens, where terrain theory is more the idea
00:27:43
that the environment that in which we create within our mind
00:27:47
and our body sets the terrain for whether something will ever,
00:27:52
you know, affect us or not. So it's kind of, I think the best
00:27:56
example I've ever heard said about it is when you have a fish
00:27:58
tank, if the fish starts getting some kind of scaly disease. Do
00:28:02
you give the fish antibiotics first, or do you clean the tank?
00:28:05
Right? And so terrain theory is really about what is, what does
00:28:08
our tank look like? You know? What are we living in? And in
00:28:11
this is the screen that lit up most for you, where we have the
00:28:16
most purples coming up. So we have central nervous system
00:28:19
immune to and then we have autoimmune at the bottom, and
00:28:25
all of these really have a lot to do with your immunity. And
00:28:30
it's not so much the necessarily the innate immunity, which we
00:28:33
did see, though, in the spleen and the bone drivers coming up.
00:28:37
So there might be a bit of that too, but this is more like how,
00:28:41
what kind of state is your body in right now, in order to fight
00:28:44
off things if it comes into contact with it, so with the
00:28:47
central nervous system, we also,
00:28:59
yeah, so central nervous system Now, in this case, it's not so
00:29:02
much like maybe for me and you that have MS, we might see more
00:29:06
things like glial cell come up, or the actual driver for the
00:29:09
nervous system, where we're actually showing there is an
00:29:11
energetic problem with the nerves. In this case, for Tony,
00:29:15
it's not that the nerves are showing up here. It's the the
00:29:18
environment in which the nerves are in currently, which would
00:29:22
make sense, because he doesn't really have a neurological
00:29:25
issue, per se, right now, he has a residual effect from a virus
00:29:28
that's causing this central nervous system just to be
00:29:32
activated. And one of the things that's essential to the central
00:29:36
nervous system, one is that it also can be linked to childhood
00:29:42
viruses. So when we come down here, we see, sorry, that in the
00:29:53
last line there on the blue tab that comes up that it can be
00:29:57
affected by childhood viruses. And. Seeing as the this virus of
00:30:02
chicken pox and shingles, it starts generally we get infected
00:30:05
as a child. That there could be something here. The same way
00:30:09
that MS is linked with epstein barr, is that there could be
00:30:12
something here that because of whatever infection happened at a
00:30:16
young age, if the body energetically didn't come back
00:30:21
into coherence after that infection. This is why the
00:30:24
shingles can reactivate. And how come? Maybe the shingles is
00:30:27
turning into two years now of suffering with neurological
00:30:30
pain, because there's still something in the energy body
00:30:34
that hasn't quite overcome that childhood virus still. And it's
00:30:38
not now because there's actual virus replicating in the body.
00:30:41
It's not because there's an actual active infection. It's
00:30:44
because the blueprint of the body surrounding that virus
00:30:48
never corrected itself.
00:30:50
Manon Bolliger: Actually, just to add a point, then apparently
00:30:55
the shingles hides in the bone marrow. That's actually where,
00:31:00
you know, again, some people say there are no viruses. It's all
00:31:04
environment. But whichever theory, it's the environment of
00:31:08
the bone marrow that's maybe holding the memory.
00:31:13
Dayna Wylder: And you've seen bone marrow showed up on the
00:31:15
scan in the beginning. And, you know, I tend to think that
00:31:19
there's a mix of both of these things, like, that's where I lie
00:31:22
on it is, there's definitely pathogens and there's parasites.
00:31:26
I mean, I've seen them in live blood analysis and in my pets. I
00:31:30
know that there are these things that our body comes into
00:31:33
contact, but I still think that it's very important for us to
00:31:37
take full responsibility for, you know, the food we're eating,
00:31:41
and the terrain in our body, and the kind of people we expose
00:31:44
ourselves to, and, you know, the kind of work we do for living
00:31:47
all of these things matters tremendously to whether or not
00:31:50
those viruses are dormant, or whether we fight them off, or
00:31:53
whether we get infected and very sick from them. I meet in the
00:31:58
middle. We both have both. I think,
00:32:00
Manon Bolliger: yeah, and I think the issue with the the
00:32:03
virus compared to bacteria or parasites, is the the clinical,
00:32:09
can it be isolated, right? That's the big question. And
00:32:13
that's just a the artifact of, you know what, how it needs to
00:32:18
be shown in science, right? And I think that's the question too.
00:32:23
It might be also, you know, maybe viruses can't be isolated,
00:32:28
but it doesn't mean that they don't exist. Maybe they're like
00:32:32
parasitic to a cell, you know what I mean? So it's a very
00:32:36
Dayna Wylder: cold word. We're trying to ask people here today
00:32:38
to believe in things they can't see, right? We don't see the
00:32:41
energy body, right? And so there's other things. Just
00:32:44
because we don't prove it, doesn't necessarily make it true
00:32:47
or not. I think a lot of these things, it's, how do we
00:32:49
experience them? Yeah, right. And if we experience that we got
00:32:53
sick from something, I mean, I guess, really, for me, does it
00:32:56
really matter? All the other things behind it, if I, if I got
00:33:00
sick. I got sick Exactly.
00:33:02
Manon Bolliger: And you do what you what you can, and what you
00:33:05
can is your environment.
00:33:06
Dayna Wylder: So, right, yeah, well, it gives a lot of
00:33:08
sovereignty and autonomy to people, you know, and it takes
00:33:12
some of the pressure off the doctors. Because I feel like
00:33:14
sometimes I, you know, come down on doctors, and can condemn them
00:33:18
quite a bit, the allopathic doctors. But the truth is, is
00:33:21
that, you know, I've talked to some of them before, and they
00:33:24
say that they don't really talk about diet and lifestyle,
00:33:26
because there's no compliance with people. And you know, I
00:33:30
mean, that's lazy on their part too, but it's also lazy on the
00:33:33
patient's part that we just go to the doctor and say, You know
00:33:35
what, I have a lifetime of not taking good care of myself. Now,
00:33:38
give me a pill to fix it, but I don't want to do anything about
00:33:41
it. Just fix me, right? It's really, you know, we can't just
00:33:45
only blame one side. We really have to look at like, what is
00:33:48
this relationship, and where is it broken, and what, what can we
00:33:51
do to fix it? Right? Yeah, so moving into the energy, or,
00:33:57
sorry, the immune to coming up this one. I mean, it has a lot
00:34:02
to do with immunity and generally heavy metals. Now, I
00:34:05
never really like when I looked on. I'm just going to jump
00:34:08
screens here for a minute. When I go to your environment and I
00:34:11
locked I looked at toxic metals, there's allege showed up a
00:34:15
little bit, but there's none that are really outstanding
00:34:18
here. So I have a feeling when I look at that, that there could
00:34:22
be something other than a heavy metal some of them have to do
00:34:25
like especially more when you see it in immune three has more
00:34:27
to do with immunity, that that fails after a trauma. And so
00:34:32
maybe this one's bleeding into that a little bit more where
00:34:34
there would be a stressful event, something much like my
00:34:37
own, Ms during the pandemic, right when I was being
00:34:40
threatened by work and all of these things, it lowered my
00:34:43
immune system. And then that, you know, creates now the
00:34:47
perfect breeding ground for my MS to come back and attack, and
00:34:51
maybe something like that going on here too, where there was
00:34:54
just something that just kind of takes you off your center enough
00:34:57
that your immune system struggles and the. Things come
00:35:00
back into your environment, I
00:35:02
Manon Bolliger: think for because Tony's right now in an
00:35:04
acute moment of pain. So I'll just speak for him. But I think
00:35:09
you know, for the etiology of this, it was during the pandemic
00:35:14
when, you know, we were aware that this, you know, there's a
00:35:19
lot of dangers, and we were trying to avoid family taking
00:35:25
unnecessary routes on experimental things, but we
00:35:29
weren't allowed to speak and and I think that this, this being
00:35:35
shut up and being seen as a tinfoil Hatter, and, you know,
00:35:42
not really following the science and all this business was, was a
00:35:47
huge trigger in, in Tony's case, yeah.
00:35:52
Dayna Wylder: And you know what you can you can see it here too.
00:35:54
Because if I go back to the mind body again, and we look at the
00:35:58
brain stem and the hologram, so this one, when we when you read
00:36:02
that last line again here in the blue tab, you see that themes of
00:36:05
survival, existence and family and what could summarize better
00:36:10
what happened during covid, especially for those of us that
00:36:12
understood the dangers and we're trying to, you know, warn our
00:36:16
family and friends to be met with them, you know, disliking
00:36:20
us, right, and really, and at least in my case, I failed, in
00:36:24
quite a few cases to, you know, prevent people from harming
00:36:29
themselves now and the repercussions they're suffering.
00:36:32
So I think it really rocked all of our foundations. So it
00:36:35
doesn't surprise me that this one is showing up here and and
00:36:38
how it is expressing itself energetically and through the
00:36:42
rest of the scan. So when we get into the Energy stars, sorry,
00:36:47
did you have a question there? No, no. So the Energy stars now
00:36:53
this is where they kind of are starting to look at the patterns
00:36:56
overall. So the ENERGY STAR is not necessarily one thing on the
00:37:00
scan that showed up, right? Like it wasn't, Oh, the heart cell
00:37:03
showed up. Or this meridian, this is kind of looking at the
00:37:05
overall pattern as to, like, what's really going on. And in
00:37:09
this case, the autoimmune comes up. And I don't always see this
00:37:12
one that it has to be like, necessarily an autoimmune
00:37:15
disease that you're diagnosed with here, but it's more the
00:37:18
fact that the body is, you know, kind of turned on itself a
00:37:21
little bit right where it's overactive, so that you're the
00:37:25
shingles. Even though it's the, you know, whatever acute phase
00:37:30
of the shingles is gone, the body still is in overdrive. It's
00:37:34
still reacting. It's still doing something. It's still, you know,
00:37:38
really, in panic mode right at the adrenals are still going
00:37:41
there. It's feeling the pain all the time, and it becomes, you
00:37:44
know, a cyclical though, because as you feel the pain more
00:37:47
frequently, then you don't breathe as good, then you're
00:37:49
getting less oxygen, which is making you tired, which makes
00:37:52
the pain and sleeping worse. And, you know, it's a very hard
00:37:55
hamster wheel to jump out of and to really start, you know, doing
00:38:00
the right steps to kind of heal all of it, so that we the energy
00:38:04
patterns that have become disharmonious, can get back into
00:38:07
alignment, so that all of the other wonderful things you do,
00:38:10
like eating well, and, you know, hiking and yoga and meditation,
00:38:14
all of those things, are going to become way more meaningful
00:38:17
once You You know, correct this blueprint that's gone awry. Now
00:38:22
there's another two screens on here, and I always, especially
00:38:26
in this case, I'm going to include them here, just for the
00:38:29
viewers to see that they're possible. But there is so much
00:38:31
more information here, and I feel sometimes, especially when
00:38:35
I see people that are already have a lot of diagnoses and
00:38:39
they're very worried about their condition. I don't like to give
00:38:42
them so many things to look at, because if they see a purple or
00:38:44
they see something, then they really start to panic about it
00:38:47
and they worry. I'm going to include them here for everybody,
00:38:49
just because, as a naturopathic doctor, you'll understand some
00:38:53
of these things and what they are in the environment. And I
00:38:55
just want to give another caveat before we look at any of them
00:38:59
that say like, we'll just take mold, for example, if, if you
00:39:03
had a whole bunch of purples in your mold showing up here, but
00:39:06
you don't have any symptoms of mold exposure. It's one of those
00:39:10
things I would just not I would just disregard it a little bit,
00:39:13
because it could have been that you lived when you were 18 years
00:39:16
old in an apartment that had mold in it, and you don't any
00:39:18
longer have the mold. It's not an issue for you, but
00:39:21
energetically, it's still just like kind of hanging out there
00:39:26
as unresolved. But I would only say some of these things matter
00:39:30
if you have symptoms that match them. And also if you scanned
00:39:35
month after month and they continuously showed up, because
00:39:37
if you're having the symptoms and these things are showing up
00:39:40
all the time, then probably you have an issue here, and you need
00:39:42
to address them otherwise. You know, I think that we should
00:39:45
not. It's kind of like with the EMF mitigation and some of these
00:39:49
things, it's so hard to get chemical free now and to to
00:39:54
reduce our exposure to things. And if we stress about it and we
00:39:57
worry about it, that negative stress and. Worry actually is
00:40:01
counterproductive. So, you know, the only thing I'll really talk
00:40:05
about on this one is, like the one I usually talk to about with
00:40:07
people, is the radiation, because this is one of the ones
00:40:10
that we have the most control over right away. And here you
00:40:14
actually, it looks good. There's no purple coming up, which is
00:40:16
very surprising in this day and age, because almost everybody I
00:40:19
scan this is all purple here because we are on our cell phone
00:40:24
so frequently, computers, blue lights, a lot of technology. You
00:40:28
have a little bit showing up in the EMF. But I think in this day
00:40:31
and age, it's pretty difficult to to not have something here.
00:40:36
And when I go back to your energy source, where we talked
00:40:39
about all those ways in which we interact with the planet and the
00:40:43
bigger energy fields. Nothing is purple here, which means that
00:40:46
you're actually quite balanced here, and everything looks good.
00:40:49
And then, you know, I'll just bring attention to that. There
00:40:53
is a nutrition screen here, and the nutrition screen is going to
00:40:57
go through like, say, in this case, we're looking at the
00:41:02
minerals. And vitamins. And I think that I read in your intake
00:41:05
that you take B vitamins, and some of these are showing up as
00:41:09
purple. And again, this doesn't mean that you don't have enough
00:41:12
of it. It could mean you have an excess, or it could mean the one
00:41:15
you're taking is just maybe the wrong one. So it doesn't
00:41:18
necessarily mean you need to go buy a supplement right away if
00:41:21
you see something or change anything, one of the things you
00:41:24
always can do is using muscle testing or energy testing to
00:41:28
hold the supplement that you're taking to you to see. Is that
00:41:31
one right? Is it making you stronger? Is it making you
00:41:33
weaker? And you could maybe adjust in that regard. But
00:41:37
again, one of those things that it you have to have a bit of
00:41:41
intuition and guidance to kind of interpret it. But just to let
00:41:45
you know how much more information is here, when you
00:41:47
look at this later, there's more drop down fields here.
00:41:50
Manon Bolliger: So you had a vitamin D, right? Showed up? Let
00:41:58
me go back. Yeah. Vitamin D and C and C, yeah, it's interesting,
00:42:06
yeah, yeah. Cuz, um, it looks like, yeah. There could
00:42:10
definitely be a deficiency of vitamin D, or, you know, a DNA
00:42:15
clip that's not allowing the absorption of vitamin D, you
00:42:19
know, because he is taking vitamin D,
00:42:22
Dayna Wylder: yeah, and again, that's one of those things that
00:42:24
it could be that there's okay. My sister came one time and she
00:42:30
wanted to bring me supplements to my house. She wanted me to do
00:42:33
more potassium and sodium, and she was talking about them, and
00:42:36
they were sitting on the table beside us. And I scanned her,
00:42:38
and those came up on the scan, and I think that it was because
00:42:43
we were just talking about them. So sometimes, that's why I say
00:42:46
with some of these things, with a grain of salt and to kind of
00:42:48
look at it intuitively. Because if you took these today and you
00:42:51
were thinking about them, and they were in your mind, then
00:42:55
energetically, those things are in the current field right now,
00:43:00
right? So that's why, with some of these things, like with with
00:43:02
some clients, I don't provide these, these tabs otherwise,
00:43:07
yeah, but you know, the one that is interesting for a lot of
00:43:10
people is your sensitivities. And because you had autoimmune
00:43:14
showing up, I thought we could talk about this one just
00:43:17
quickly. And this is looking at like, if there's something with
00:43:20
the glutens coming up. And I think for you, I want to say
00:43:23
there was citrus and nightshades, but we'll just go
00:43:26
through them quick. So corn showing up. And I think corn for
00:43:32
all of us, I mean, this one is one of the most genetically
00:43:34
modified foods now. And you know, with the US trying to push
00:43:38
corn so much, I think that it's processed and harvested, not in
00:43:44
very ethical or sustainable, healthy ways.
00:43:49
And I think, yeah, I want to say it was citrus that came up
00:43:53
Manon Bolliger: your fruit, and citrus fruit, but not lemons.
00:43:57
Yeah, interesting.
00:44:00
Dayna Wylder: So again, some of these things too is because I
00:44:02
don't want people to think, Oh, if they see something come up,
00:44:05
they're like, oh, I can never eat that again. It could be
00:44:07
different when you scan in a couple months, that this could
00:44:10
change where it's like, your body just right now is just
00:44:13
saying, Yeah, I don't want as much of that right now, or I
00:44:15
need more of that. And it can always be fluid and change over
00:44:19
time. I think it was night shades I want to go to, yeah,
00:44:24
so, so I don't know if there was, because I know your large
00:44:29
intestine showed up, but I think that that had more to do with
00:44:32
the immune factor in the neurosensory part. But the large
00:44:36
intestine, when we eat lectins that are found in the night
00:44:39
shades, it can be damaging. So it can always scrape the lining
00:44:45
of the intestinal tract and cause some digestion issues. I
00:44:49
don't know if digestion is an issue or not for you. No, I have
00:44:55
a feeling when the when we seen it come up under the energy flow
00:44:59
that it had more to. Do with that neurosensory and the
00:45:01
dermis, there was more about the skin and also that it's the it's
00:45:04
the Yang to the Yin of the lungs. So, you know, that's like
00:45:08
they're both talking at the same time to each other. So for the
00:45:13
scan, yeah, there's a lot of information there. I'll send a
00:45:15
PDF copy to it afterwards, as well as on your account that you
00:45:19
created. You can go back in and you can click on all of these
00:45:22
fields and kind of go through and really see things that were
00:45:26
maybe beyond what we had time to talk about only today and to
00:45:31
gain deeper insights. Because there's like, a wealth of
00:45:34
information here, and it's the kind of information that we
00:45:37
don't really get in other ways, because it's not that often we
00:45:40
get to look at the energetic blueprints of our bodies, and
00:45:44
then to start to see the bigger patterns of how our emotions tie
00:45:47
into this, how the circumstances of our life, right? Which is
00:45:50
something that's often missed when you just go to your regular
00:45:52
family doctor, is that if they're treating you for
00:45:55
something like shingles, they're they're not going to correlate
00:45:58
that to, you know, five years ago and what was happening
00:46:01
emotionally for you, right? And so these scans are kind of a way
00:46:04
to bridge, you know, between the realms of mind, body, energy and
00:46:11
emotion.
00:46:13
Manon Bolliger: No, I think, I think it's a, it's a very good
00:46:17
overall kind of you know, assessment, I think it's very
00:46:23
cool. I was thinking, though, and with permission, right, I
00:46:28
can talk a little bit about why it's on it's on video, yeah,
00:46:35
yeah, like we've done, or Tony has done quite a bit of work on,
00:46:42
you know, past trauma, griefs, you know, we've done different
00:46:49
therapies, like hypnotherapy and types of energetic work, you
00:46:54
know, to release all of that over the Last, you know, at
00:46:59
least year and a half because, you know, he knows that they're
00:47:04
connected. So it's interesting, though, it doesn't seem so far
00:47:11
that any of them have really shifted that, you know, I mean,
00:47:18
it
00:47:19
Dayna Wylder: depends on the practitioner as well too, right?
00:47:22
For some of these things, like who it is that has the skills to
00:47:26
do it, and also the shared energy to like who necessarily
00:47:30
made you feel like the most supported and understood,
00:47:32
because it is an energy exchange between practitioner and patient
00:47:36
to really, you know, be seen and felt and supported through it, I
00:47:41
think makes a big difference for people. And also, like you said
00:47:44
in the beginning, it's not the same thing for everybody.
00:47:47
Manon Bolliger: No, you hear
00:47:50
Dayna Wylder: these wonderful success stories with some
00:47:52
things, and you're like, Oh, I'm going to try that, and you
00:47:54
follow down that hole and and you never get the same result
00:47:57
that somebody else might have got from doing it.
00:47:59
Manon Bolliger: But no, I know, because I definitely know people
00:48:02
who I mean, first of all, the therapists that we have seen, I
00:48:06
would say I have no complaints on their compassion, presence,
00:48:10
their connection, all of that was excellent, but I asked them
00:48:15
the other question, is it timing? You know, is there?
00:48:19
Yeah, it'll be interesting to see. You know, what happens when
00:48:23
we do the scan or not the scan, the the treatment here to see
00:48:29
whether they they lift, and if they do, well, okay, that would
00:48:35
be just unbelievably amazing. And if they don't, then where
00:48:41
does a person go next? You know, like, because that's, I mean,
00:48:45
the whole, my whole podcast is about healing, you know, the
00:48:49
steps, what you can add. And, of course, it's an individual
00:48:54
thing, you know. So we could look at, you know, self
00:48:57
sabotage. But I mean, that didn't come up in your scan, it
00:49:00
didn't come up anywhere else. But, you know, you wonder, like,
00:49:04
why is it? Some people hold on longer, you know, those types of
00:49:09
questions, right? And, and a lot of that is not conscious, it's
00:49:14
unconscious, you know, so doing a lot of the unconscious work,
00:49:18
technically, should release all of this, right? So anyway, I'll
00:49:22
be these are all my pre kind of questions, but yeah,
00:49:28
Dayna Wylder: and so sometimes, sometimes with the the energy
00:49:31
devices, and it says, the reason why, when we take, like, say,
00:49:34
the emphasutical product that goes with it, it is taking the
00:49:38
drops every single day, because that way the body wants to go
00:49:41
back to disharmony. Because, like even with the subconscious,
00:49:44
we go back to our programming over and over, but we have to
00:49:47
constantly remind the body, no, this is where we want to be. And
00:49:50
you have to keep bringing it back and bringing it back and
00:49:53
bringing it back. And so the the energy device is good because it
00:49:55
gives that direct information right away into the body. But
00:49:59
when. Use the related products to it. It's kind of like the
00:50:03
reminder every day. So if you're if your body starts to go
00:50:07
unconscious again, you're giving it that frequency and saying,
00:50:10
no, no, please stay here. This is where we want to resonate at
00:50:13
now. So sometimes, even if you don't get results, like in the
00:50:17
first treatment, it's not because it's that modality
00:50:20
doesn't work. It's just because it's going to take, you know,
00:50:23
time for the body to readjust. And I think depending on how
00:50:26
systemic the issues become too. So some things like energy can
00:50:30
shift very quickly, right? We change thoughts and our energies
00:50:34
instantly shifts. But when the body gets stored emotions and
00:50:39
trauma and they go deeper once it becomes like in the physical
00:50:42
body. Unfortunately, the physical body is constrained
00:50:44
with time and space. So now you know you have the length it
00:50:49
takes to heal a nerve cell compared to a cardiac cell,
00:50:53
compared to the tissue of skin, right? Like they all kind of
00:50:57
have. Now you know different timelines to heal, but
00:51:01
energetically, they can shift instantly, but sometimes the
00:51:04
body takes a little bit to catch up to what the information has
00:51:07
changed.
00:51:08
Manon Bolliger: Yeah, no, I would say that's definitely
00:51:09
consistent with what I've seen when I used to have a practice.
00:51:14
So, no, I think, I think that's true. Yeah, well, shall we do
00:51:19
this and then I'll, yeah, I mean, I may as well record it
00:51:24
anyways, and I'll cut it off if it's too long for people to
00:51:27
wait.
00:51:28
Dayna Wylder: Sure. I'm just trying to
00:51:31
get the device to just turn on, because, for some reason, is not
00:51:34
cooperating. Should I get
00:51:35
Manon Bolliger: a vial of of water to imprint this
00:51:42
information as you're doing it. Sorry, we repeat that again.
00:51:46
Should I get a vial like of water, you know, like so that he
00:51:51
can do drops of this information? Is that a good
00:51:56
idea?
00:51:57
Dayna Wylder: Well, I mean, if you have a glass of water there,
00:51:59
we can try to use the intention and the frequency to treat the
00:52:02
water as well.
00:52:04
Manon Bolliger: Okay, yeah, I'm going to get the proper glass.
00:52:08
Now. It's interesting. Another symptom Tony has is, when we
00:52:12
talk about his symptoms, he's significantly worse. Okay, so
00:52:19
he's like now, not quite here, but I'll bring him back in when
00:52:24
we start. So just give me a moment.
00:52:25
Dayna Wylder: Do you mind if we just pause for one moment while
00:52:27
I just absolutely, yeah, yeah, let me do that.
00:52:30
Manon Bolliger: Yeah. I'll just turn that on, okay? And I can
00:52:35
cut out anything, you know, whatever. Okay. So, yeah, okay,
00:52:44
what
00:52:47
Dayna Wylder: we're going to do next now for Tony is doing using
00:52:52
my my health device. So this device is got a few different
00:52:56
technologies in it. So if we were working in person, it has
00:53:00
something called scene are in it, which is self controlled,
00:53:03
energeo. Energo. Get the acronym right here, Neuro adaptive
00:53:10
response. And what that does is it uses a micro current to go
00:53:14
into the body. And that micro current, as the nervous system
00:53:18
responds to it, it feeds back into the system, and they go
00:53:22
back and forth and respond to each other. And in that case,
00:53:25
you almost get like a magnetic, sticky feeling whenever you
00:53:28
reach this point of low impedance. And this is where the
00:53:31
Energy wants to almost go into the body. And you can, you can
00:53:35
hear the difference. But in this case, because we're working
00:53:37
remotely, I'm going to switch it to broadcasting or off body
00:53:41
mode. And what this is now is, for anyone that might have a
00:53:45
hard time imagining, the same way that we're on zoom right now
00:53:48
with each other, is the same way that this works, is that we
00:53:52
have, you know, a signal on both ends, and we're sending an Open
00:53:56
Broadcast that goes out through the ether. And any of you that
00:54:00
are familiar with quantum physics or the quantum field, is
00:54:05
that the easiest way I'd like to think about this idea of non non
00:54:09
locality, or no more time and space, is if you had a sheet of
00:54:14
paper and you pulled on one end, the entire paper moves at one
00:54:19
point. So now that me and Tony have been discussing, and I'm
00:54:22
reviewing his scan, and we're discussing this, we're already
00:54:26
in the same connection. We're entangled right now
00:54:28
energetically. So as I play this device, what I'm going to have
00:54:32
Tony do is to think about the body parts as I discuss them,
00:54:37
and then to really send his intention there, and maybe even
00:54:40
you massage that point, you touch it, you tap on it, you do
00:54:44
something to just enliven that part of your body so that it
00:54:47
knows that that's where we're communicating. And we'll both
00:54:50
use our own intention to kind of set the stage here for this
00:54:55
healing to happen remotely. So when I start the the. Is the
00:55:00
first thing we're going to do, and just so everybody can see
00:55:05
where we're I'm getting this information from when we did the
00:55:07
scan. This these first five things are the infoceutical
00:55:11
products that were recommended for you based on your scan. But
00:55:14
underneath here we have the My Health functions, and this is
00:55:18
now where we was suggesting that we treat your lungs, your
00:55:22
kidneys, your spleen and the perineum, which is like the kind
00:55:29
of, like the the fascia, or the connective tissue around the
00:55:31
entire stomach, so it's kind of connecting the whole abdomen.
00:55:36
But before we even get into those four specific frequencies,
00:55:39
the first thing I want to do is play something called matrix for
00:55:42
you. And a matrix carrier is thinking about the entire field.
00:55:46
So this is your entire hologram, your the blueprint of Tony, the
00:55:50
whole body. So when I start, we're going to do two minutes,
00:55:53
and I just want you to close your eyes and now to just
00:55:56
envision this energy moving like the toroidus field. So it's
00:56:02
coming from above your head. It's moving down through you.
00:56:05
It's circling back up, and it's encompassing you.
00:56:14
And now, for two minutes, I just played this frequency of the
00:56:18
matrix carrier to you. And although there's hundreds of
00:56:24
settings in the device, I'd like to start with this one, because
00:56:29
it kind of enlivens your whole body first,
00:56:41
although it might not be good for entertainment on the
00:56:44
viewers, and I do want to try to Give Tony some silence to just
00:56:48
feel into the energy.
00:57:27
Really imagining that your entire matrix is coherent
00:57:35
and blanketed under one unified field of harmony.
00:57:44
Where you're safe and protected,
00:57:51
and where you can take a deep, slow breath into your belly.
00:58:02
Let letting go of the fear and the need to survive,
00:58:18
and now we're moving into your lungs, just bringing your
00:58:22
attention
00:58:25
to those places, those indents between your shoulder and your
00:58:32
chest muscles, and breathing in healing light,
00:58:45
vital new energy entering the body,
00:58:54
radiating down the meridian in the Yin side of the front of
00:59:01
your arm, the soft side of the underarm, through the elbow,
00:59:15
this breath and this light coming down the forearm and out
00:59:22
of your thumb,
00:59:27
and with each breath, new vital light circulating your entire
00:59:34
body,
00:59:38
with new energy for your nervous system
00:59:42
to draw on as it calms itself now,
00:59:55
you have the energy now to heal.
01:00:02
As your lungs know what was safe to take in and what needed to
01:00:08
let go as you purify your mind your body,
01:00:26
and next we move into your kidneys, located in the back of
01:00:35
your body, just below your ribs, and with each breath we take
01:00:44
now, we're not only preserving but restoring the Jing,
01:00:54
the universal ancestral energy that was given to us. The
01:01:04
energy that we can use to heal our body,
01:01:13
to calm our adrenals and to let go of any fear because you're
01:01:21
safe in this moment, you're supported, you're loved.
01:01:33
And it's not just me and your wife, but it's all the viewers
01:01:37
and everybody now watching, regardless of if they watch now
01:01:41
or in the future, because time doesn't matter. We're all
01:01:46
sending love and light to you.
01:01:51
We're all healing you
01:01:59
continue to see this healing light glowing bright in your
01:02:05
kidneys,
01:02:09
where we're storing energy that we need for our future.
01:02:24
And in a moment, we're moving to our spleen, and the spleen is on
01:02:30
your left side, tucked in your lower ribs and abdomen,
01:02:39
and now we're sending healing, love and light to the spleen.
01:02:47
And the spleen is more than an organ. It's part the endocrine
01:02:54
system, and it's big and it's powerful, has strong energy, and
01:03:04
it helps you to metabolize not just nutrients but experiences,
01:03:18
to metabolize the events that have already happened and might
01:03:21
happen still in the future, and to build our immune system and
01:03:28
our resiliency
01:03:37
continuing to breathe into This plane.
01:03:45
Letting go of worry and pain.
01:04:04
Always remembering to breathe deep, to continue to bring the
01:04:11
oxygen to our lungs that feeds the vitality and energy to the
01:04:20
rest of our body.
01:04:27
It's clean and pure and healing light.
01:04:40
And as we continue to breathe into this area, we begin to
01:04:47
expand our awareness, not just to the spleen, but to the entire
01:04:53
abdomen.
01:04:59
And we know that. Difference by our diaphragm flattening down on
01:05:08
our inhalation to massage our lower organs.
01:05:16
This is a part of our body that isn't well protected, but it's
01:05:25
safe now fueled by the diaphragms gentle movements
01:05:37
and the power and vitality of the Lungs.
01:05:46
Lungs as a protective layer around the entire abdomen,
01:05:55
protected and shielded. You can let go of any holding,
01:06:09
any tightness
01:06:15
to all those primal feelings of fear and worry and survival.
01:06:20
Because you're safe breathing here.
01:06:43
In the final frequency is that of the liberator. This allows us
01:06:56
to let go
01:07:00
of the gripping in our mind, as we liberate it to find creative
01:07:09
solutions for our problem,
01:07:18
we liberate the subconscious. So in the future, when we sleep and
01:07:25
we dream and we heal and we wake, every time, we'll have a
01:07:33
new idea and solution to how to heal our body and move forward,
01:07:45
liberated from the struggle and the holding and gripping
01:08:02
and I'll take one final moment to send Healing frequencies to
01:08:10
Tony so that he can walk forward in the rest of his Day and the
01:08:16
rest of his life without the pain.
01:08:20
That's it. Your program is run. Can open your eyes and come
01:08:37
back. Great. Well,
01:08:48
Manon Bolliger: like a lot of that was very helpful for me
01:08:50
too.
01:08:53
Tony: Wait, this is my healing.
01:08:54
Manon Bolliger: No, I'm sorry. I'm I'm a bit connected to you.
01:09:02
Well, you have a very nice voice. Yeah, I was doing that.
01:09:06
Yeah, that's great.
01:09:12
Tony: Oh yeah, it's been, it's been a rough morning and but I
01:09:17
was certainly able to Oh be still in that session there.
01:09:26
Yeah, one of the funny things with this, I think Manon
01:09:28
mentioned it before, but when we talk about it gets worse for me.
01:09:33
You know, it's so early on, when we were going through that
01:09:37
chart, it was like, Oh, my God, it's just and it seems weird,
01:09:42
because I tend to think if somebody else told me that I'd
01:09:45
be, oh, it's all in your mind, you know. But believe me, this
01:09:49
is, really is very painful. But how it can come and go like
01:09:55
that, I find that quite extraordinary as well. You know?
01:09:59
It feels. Like it should be there that whole time or or not
01:10:03
there at all. But that's not the case, obviously.
01:10:09
Dayna Wylder: Well, it just kind of shows the the power of our
01:10:12
mind and what we focus on. And it is always one of the things
01:10:16
when I when I do the scans with people, that I always fear, that
01:10:20
sometimes, when you show people these things, that they might
01:10:24
have something else to worry about. But you know, hopefully,
01:10:28
what happens that even in that momentary discomfort of finding
01:10:33
some of the possible solutions and root causes, is that going
01:10:37
forward, you don't have to think about the pain anymore, because
01:10:41
maybe you can find a way to the other side.
01:10:44
Manon Bolliger: Yeah. What is the pain now?
01:10:49
Tony: A number, or it's about seven or eight. I think, yeah,
01:10:52
okay. It kind of comes and goes, yeah, yeah. I'm not, I must say
01:11:00
I'm not really a worrier, you know, stuff like that doesn't
01:11:03
really kind of concern me. It's never been my forte to be
01:11:09
worried, really, but I'd like to get rid of the pain is the main
01:11:15
thing.
01:11:17
Manon Bolliger: But it did show up spleen as worry, right, in
01:11:22
your emotional thing, but you know, maybe that is more
01:11:26
subconscious in your case, yeah, maybe to do with the past, you
01:11:30
know, because it's he's not typically a worrier at all,
01:11:35
right, which is interesting. But I do think, given everything
01:11:40
we've heard here, it does feel like it's, it's an old, an old
01:11:48
experience, you know? Yeah, I don't know that's what I'm
01:11:53
feeling hearing, yeah?
01:11:56
Dayna Wylder: Well, I mean, it doesn't always just have to be,
01:11:58
right. Now, some of these things can be from childhood, they can
01:12:01
be from other parts of your life. And you know, it's, I
01:12:06
think a lot of it does happen in early years, though, because
01:12:09
it's when we live in theta wave, and we tend to be pretty much
01:12:16
being in hypnosis during all those years of our life, right?
01:12:19
Because when we are trying to get people into deep meditation
01:12:22
or into hypnosis. You're trying to put them in theta wave. And
01:12:25
when you're under seven, that's where we live all the time. So
01:12:28
really, all the things that happen to us at that time in our
01:12:30
life are getting stored in our memory, and we're not really
01:12:34
aware of them. And you know it. So it's one thing to
01:12:37
unconsciously make a decision not to be a worrier, although I
01:12:40
would, I would even suggest that, you know, once you have
01:12:43
pain all the time, it's like they say with anxiety. Sometimes
01:12:46
that people have anxiety, it's the fear of the anxiety attack
01:12:49
that gives them the anxiety, you know, and it's the same thing
01:12:53
here, where maybe the the that you're worried about becoming in
01:12:56
pain gives you something to worry about. So you you get kind
01:13:01
of stuck in, in that, that loop,
01:13:04
Tony: yeah, that's possible. I don't like the scenario, but
01:13:10
it's possible. Yeah.
01:13:15
Manon Bolliger: Okay, all right, so your suggestion now would be
01:13:22
to take a, like, a sip of water, like just once a day, or when
01:13:30
the pain comes up as a reminder, like,
01:13:33
Dayna Wylder: oh yeah. So generally, with the infoceutical
01:13:36
products, we do 15 drops a day, and then I mean, but in this
01:13:39
case, because you guys just, you don't have it in a drop, or it's
01:13:42
just water. Dropper. It's just water, but, yeah, or you could
01:13:46
just have, like, you know, a tablespoon of it, say, or
01:13:48
something. You just take some out. Because the thing, when
01:13:51
they've just done a lot of studies, and it was very
01:13:53
interesting, actually, University of California, San
01:13:56
Diego, one of their doctor, doctor, Himal Patel, I want to
01:14:00
say his name is. He tried to disprove emphasesuticals, and he
01:14:03
tried to say that it was BS. And they did studies, and they
01:14:06
actually proved that they work in effort to disprove them.
01:14:09
Yeah, and when they were doing it, they they found, very much
01:14:12
like homeopathy, that the dilution didn't matter. So with
01:14:16
the Intraceuticals, you know, whether you took a small amount
01:14:19
or whether you took a large amount. It was the what was
01:14:22
imprinted in it that mattered, not the dosage. Yeah, so, I
01:14:26
mean, that's what I'm saying there. I don't know how big your
01:14:28
glass of water is, but you could, and you know, you could
01:14:30
spread it out two times a day too, if you feel or take it like
01:14:33
most infoceuticals, I recommend people take in the morning,
01:14:36
unless they're taking ones that are specifically for, like chill
01:14:39
or something. That's better at nighttime. But I'm not sure that
01:14:43
infoceuticals, they're not an immediate response where you
01:14:46
take it and it's boom it in that moment. So just the consistency
01:14:51
of taking it, even just every morning over time, is just
01:14:55
reminding your body. Because, you know, one session we do
01:14:58
right now. I mean, you might just. Be calm from the session
01:15:01
now, but it I don't, I don't even claim to say that one
01:15:06
energy session is heals somebody, because, just like
01:15:09
anything, we have to practice it and do it over and over. But
01:15:12
taking the Intraceuticals every day, what, and what you've done
01:15:15
right now with the water, and you know, the infeceuticals
01:15:18
actually come with like they already were filtered in ozone
01:15:21
in them and the minerals in them. But one of the interesting
01:15:24
things they found about, and I know if you've been aware of the
01:15:28
studies like Emmanuel Moto and other people that have studied
01:15:32
the frequency and water, is that it didn't really matter so much
01:15:36
the quality of the water as it did the emotion and intention
01:15:40
put behind it, yeah, yeah, right. So even when they thought
01:15:43
positive thoughts are played nice music to dirty water, it's
01:15:47
still made a beautiful crystal, right? So, you know? And then
01:15:52
that's why I think a lot of these things, it's, you know,
01:15:54
yeah, it's nice to have the filter clean water and to have
01:15:57
the product, but the intention matters a lot, too.
01:16:00
Manon Bolliger: I Okay, well, so what, what will I guess like? So
01:16:08
if, if Tony was following up with you, like, just so people
01:16:13
know, what would be like, he would do this, and then what
01:16:17
would be your recommended treatment protocol, typically.
01:16:21
Dayna Wylder: So if I was dealing with somebody who's only
01:16:23
just doing the bio resonance scan, a follow up right now
01:16:26
would be I send you the reports, and then I generally give like
01:16:29
recommendations. We talked about some of the things with Tony
01:16:32
today, like tracing the lung meridian, right? We could also
01:16:35
be doing the opposite one, which would be the large intestine
01:16:37
meridian, which is now coming up the finger on the outside of the
01:16:41
arm, up the neck and around the ear, which is where you were
01:16:45
feeling these pains, which is, you know, telling to me that the
01:16:50
place where you're feeling it is the two places where the
01:16:52
meridians run that showed up on your scan. So I would say, then,
01:16:56
you know, pressing into those acupuncture points and tracing
01:16:59
the meridians would bring energy and intention there and do that
01:17:03
as many times a day as you want, so as often as you remember to
01:17:06
do it. You can't overdo that, right? And and then I generally
01:17:10
follow up. I would scan people once a month for at least three
01:17:13
months to just see if the products they need and the
01:17:16
frequencies they need change, because some things change
01:17:19
immediately, you know, like, if you just have a cold or a flu,
01:17:22
you can get over that pretty quick. But, you know, once you
01:17:25
have things that have been going on for years, you know, you need
01:17:28
sustained effort, right?
01:17:30
Manon Bolliger: Sure, it makes sense, okay, well, and then
01:17:33
maybe at one point we could do a follow up for the, you know, the
01:17:41
audience that's watching, and and then discuss what, what
01:17:46
happened? If you're up for that, yeah,
01:17:48
Dayna Wylder: no, I'd love to do that, because one of the things
01:17:50
that this software has the ability to do is also create a
01:17:53
tracking progress, so you could see, like, month after month,
01:17:56
when you scan the colors of all of the things and how it's
01:18:00
either gotten better changed, and because sometimes you'll
01:18:03
actually see that as you clear up some older issues. Are the
01:18:07
not What do you say older ones, the ones the body's looking for
01:18:10
first, because your body always tells you what it needs
01:18:13
immediately. But there's always layers to things. So as you kind
01:18:16
of deal with some of those top layer things, sometimes you get
01:18:18
deeper and you realize that it was actually a bigger issue than
01:18:21
the first one. You thought it was
01:18:24
Manon Bolliger: right, right? And maybe he's done all that
01:18:27
work over the years. And this is the final one. I would like to
01:18:33
think it was more like that after 20 years. You know,
01:18:37
sometimes it's
01:18:37
Dayna Wylder: always a journey. Like our bodies, they don't
01:18:41
stay, they don't stay still, right? Our body is constantly
01:18:44
dissolving and reforming every second as we age, and it's so
01:18:48
dynamic. It's, it's, it's beautiful, but complicated, yes,
01:18:54
yes.
01:18:54
Manon Bolliger: And yet healing could be, can be easy, right?
01:18:57
So, you know, it's very interesting anyway. Thank you so
01:19:01
much for your time.
01:19:03
Dayna Wylder: Yeah, I hope that you guys got some insight out of
01:19:06
that. And yeah,
01:19:07
Manon Bolliger: definitely, yeah. Okay, well, thank you.
01:19:11
Dayna Wylder: Yeah. Thank you so much. Bye.