EP 381: How to Change Your Trajectory with Mike “CRoc” Ciorrocco

Debra, with her 30 years of being an entrepreneur and creating over seven companies, knows exactly what it means to accept the mission. When you make that decision, when you accept the mission to become a solopreneur, to take yourself and your talents to market, then you embrace a life of not only unlimited possibilities but also the unknown. It's an elixir of fear and bravery that only someone who's taken the leap really understands. On our show, Deb digs deep with her guests to highlight what you, the listener, wants to know: the stories, the whys, and the hows to navigate the journey to success. Get ready to hear from some of the most incredible mission takers, from Generation Z to Boomers, so sit up, perk up, and get ready to be blown away. Now, here is your host, Deborah Drummond.

Welcome. You know I say it three times. Welcome, welcome, welcome back. And you know how I know I say it three times because I listen to myself. I listened to myself. Thank you so much. Congratulations! Yay, you you officially as can I say the best podcast audience ever? I don't know. We got Mike Therock in the room, and he knows a lot about podcasting, but he also knows when a podcast audience is active. And you are congratulations. We are now more global than we've ever been, and we went from 5% to 3% top on listen notes, and that's because you guys have been sharing everything that we are doing. And I want to say thank you on behalf of our guests as well. So look at we've got Mike Searock in the room. He is the founder of that one. If you see that hat that he's wearing, for those of you that are viewing that one brand, and we're going to have a really great conversation today. And the way that you are going to feel when you leave, we know the standard stuff of motivated, and you feel like you're going to go big, and you want to go bigger because that's what you're here for. But you are going to feel so open to connecting in a way that you haven't thought about before, particularly in your business, particularly in relationship business, and you are going to learn about value. You're going to feel really, really valuable, and you're going to know how that transpires in your business conversations and your handshakes. So that's how you're going to feel today, along with many other things. Now, for those of you that have been following Outsider Podcast Land and all over our socials. You probably saw me and this guy down at the last Emmys event that we did, or one of the one of the Emmys event that we did. And Mike was there doing what Mike does best, and that's connecting. So we're going to talk about that today. Thanks for being at the show. We'll talk to you a little bit later, Mike. Thanks for coming to Mission Accepted.

Deb, thanks for having me. I really appreciate it. It's been a long time coming.

Yeah, it has. It has, and here we are. Here we are on a beautiful Wednesday. And if you, that's a pre-show. That's a pre-show joke. Look, why don't you tell our audience a little bit about what this Mike Searock, that one brand connecting guy does, and then let's dig into it.

Yeah, you know, I founded that one, the brand, and it became something I came up with when I was in the podcasting space. I was thinking about creating a magazine around podcast guests and calling it the Guest Magazine, right? And then I was thinking to myself, that's not good enough. By the way, I never created this magazine, but it was just an idea. You know, entrepreneurs we have tons of ideas, and I started thinking about what people will say when they're trying to describe someone sometimes, and they're like, you know, that one person, that one guy, that one girl, or you know, what's that one actress's name? And that one just stuck out to me, and I'm like, that's it. I want to help people become that one in their space, and or in their network, and so that that that one that name came out from that, and you know, I just started really understanding the power of connection and how most people don't understand how to network effectively. You hear the term or the phrase that one. I'm sorry, your network is your net worth, and I have to question that: Is it really your net worth, or is it just a loan automatically? If you have a network that you have a big net net worth, or is it how effective you can work that network, serve that network, and leverage that network, and that has inspired everything that we do here going forward.

First of all, thanks for explaining the entrepreneurial bubble because I think many many entrepreneurs have very interesting ideas, and it's great that you have them, and then you you can let them formulate. Or sometimes they circle back. Like we just finished doing a project. Well, we kicked it off three and a half years ago of a book that came to me when I was in my early 30s, and so you know, and it just circled back. Like it never really left. I stopped thinking about it, but it never really. Left, so let's talk a little bit about that. Let's dig into that. I love questioning. I love questioning. I had a great conversation yesterday from someone who wanted to do a little bit of media stuff, and she's like, "What's coming next?" I was like, "I love you. I love you. Let's talk about what's coming next." But when you question, so the the slangs, the slangs that we have out there, your net worthation, your network is your net worth, and there is a gap in between there. And that gap is that I believe is what you're talking about. It's how you have that conversation. And the word of the day is conversion, right? I think ROI is coming out and conversion is coming in, and they might you know have a relationship. But tell us a little bit about that. Let's dig in. How do you put those two pieces together? Because many of our audience, Mike, they're they're going bigger. They're going bigger, and they're meeting people that are par. They're meeting people that are par, and it's easy to sell to people or to talk to people that want kind of where you are. But I think one of the things too is when you are where you are, and other people are there are there as well. What we hear is, well, where do we take it? Like, how does that work for me? Like, we don't have anything to sell to each other because we're both where we are. Interestingly, so I just threw it through a couple. Yeah, well,

it's not all. It's not always about selling each other something. It could be about developing a relationship to help each other with information or experiences, it could be connections, right? It could be something down the road, and you're just at this time, it's more about pouring into the relationship to develop an opportunity for to serve each other later on, right? So it's not doesn't have to be transactional, and I think a lot of people get hung up in transactional versus transformational, and so I'm all about transformational relationships. But what I want to talk about when the the question you asked me about the network is your net worth. You know, when I was younger in my entrepreneurial journey, I used to talk about people, tell people, and talk about like who who I knew, right? But I could also say, I yeah, look, I know Tiger Woods, but that doesn't mean Tiger Woods knows me.

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started to realize that wasn't getting me anywhere, and I always hear people talk about who they know and this and that. I'm like, that doesn't really impress anybody. It really impresses me when you hear from people who knows them and what they know them for. Right, that's what really matters. Like, what do they know about you, and and what do they think about you? Not that you got to live your life worried about what other people think, but really, what people think about you that know you will determine what you can do for them or go do with them going forward. And so that really hit me one day, and I started to realize, wait a minute, if I want to be effective with my network and get the most out of it for all involved, not just one way, all what's in it for me, but a reciprocal relationship. What is it going to take to really like optimize this this network? And so I started thinking to myself, okay, what is one of the most attractive things you can do for people? And that question spurred the answer, which is cause and create a future for or with people. Like if you meet somebody and then you can introduce them to something, somebody that can change their life or advance their business, or you give them some knowledge from experience that you have that they can implement and it changes their trajectory. What is more attractive than that, right? So I started thinking, okay, I have a network, I'm meeting people. Now I have to figure out a way to cause and create futures for with people. What does that look like? Now I don't know how to do that at first. You don't need to know the how before you commit to something. And I just committed to that. I'm going to commit to causing and creating futures for people and helping them become unstoppable to live in the life of their dreams. That's my mission. And then what I did that was I started thinking, okay, all I need to do now is align my thoughts, my words, my actions, and the people I surround myself

with, with the mission to help people have the life of their dreams, be unstoppable to live in the life of their dreams, and cause and create a future for them and with them. And so I just started doing that, and everything that went against that in my thoughts, words, actions, and the people I keep around, I would eliminate, and that kept me going in the direction. And as I went through the direction, I started to figure out how to do that. The house starts to appear because I had a commitment. My intention was on that commitment, and I started paying attention to the things that advance that mission.

Thank you, and I'd love to pull a piece apart, and you start to eliminate. Let's talk about that because we hear it often, right? Who you surround yourself with, the people that you're having the table with, the people that you're supporting with, the people that you're advancing, the people you're putting together, and as that other world, if you want to say it, or the conversations, or you're starting to cut them short, that can be really difficult for people. We know neuronally it's difficult to go from one mindset. How did you get through the guilt of that? Did you have guilt? How did you shift from one to another, and not you know the concern about how other people feel or what it looks like? Or let's talk really because we get into the messy middle when we have these conversations on our show. About what is it like when you start to move up, and there's and you can feel an uncomfortableness with the people that you used to hang out with, or have coffee with, or have longer meetings with, or what have you. Let's talk about the realism around that statement.

Well, the fourth area I talked about is your environment, right? Making sure your environment, and that's the people you hang around and keep around art alignment with that mission. When you do that, you're going to have people exit your environment, or you're going to remove people from your environment because you no longer serve them, and they no longer serve your mission that you're that you're on. So, yeah, I don't, I don't really concern myself with if I like if I were concern myself with what everybody thinks and how it makes them feel uncomfortable all the time. You fall into this people pleasing mode, and that people pleasing mode can steal your dreams from you. And when I get a dream, I have a great relationship with God. I pray every day, and when God gives me something in my mind, it's a dream of mine or an interest, an intention. I I have to be committed to that, and so I can't have anybody in the way of that. I can't have anybody stealing from my dreams, and so I don't really concern myself. It's not always easy. I'm not saying that is. So the answer to the question about the neurons, or you know, getting your nerve hunts to start firing together, so that you can get your nervous system in alignment to have capacity for this mission, you basically do reps. You do that thing over and over and over again, and it becomes a way of life. And consistency starts getting the neurons to fire together, so that they can start being stuck together, wired together, as they say.

Fantastic. There's so much to that. There's so much to that. So we told people they were going to feel connected. We told the people that they were going to understand that a little more. Can you give us some actuals in a relationship where you obviously had your experience and you had your downloads or your thoughts or your processes and you put them together and it made a very mission based? So you had that. But for people that are doing what they're doing and their passion is what their passion is, and they might be having a little difficulty building that rapport, or building that kind of network, or feeling connected. Or let's face it, take it to take it take it down to walking into a room that you don't know, whether it's a Zoom room, whether it's a WhatsApp group room, or whether it's a live room, and they don't really know anyone in there. What are some of the ways that you started initially building that for yourself, so you had people to put together?

Yeah, well, okay, I got a story to tell, but I just want to talk about something about walking into a room. There, there's a guy named Russell Russell Wilson who was a quarterback for the Seattle Seahawks, and I talked to his brother one time, and he and Russell Wilson is is relatively short comparatively speaking to other quarterbacks in the NFL, and he said that the general manager for the Seahawks drafted his brother Russell because he was a room tilter. When he walked in the room, the room tilted towards him. There was some aura or about him or the way he carried himself, and I believe that people that are successful and that are mission driven, and you know they carry a presence about them. And so, when you walk into a room, you got to be conscious of what temperature you're bringing to the room and what aura are you carrying. Because if you have a fear of people and you're an introvert, you've got to you have to figure out a way to get over that and carry yourself into that room with intention. So that I just wanted to address that. But what happened to me back in the pandemic? If you can just imagine a guy like me that loves people, loves networking and connecting with people, being stuck in a pandemic or whatever that was, I just refused to stop talking to people. I refused to be separated. So I came up with this idea that I was going to reach out to people on Instagram because I love that platform and I think if you're intentional on it, not doom scrolling, it's very valuable. I started thinking to myself, it shows you on there who you have as mutual followers, and I said if I can reach out to people that are doing cool things that seem like cool people that have mutual friends with me, I reach out to them and just say, hey, let's hop on a 15-minute call to connect and explore synergy, and then get them on a 15-minute call to find out more about what they're working on. What are they? Where are they going with it? Maybe some of the

challenges they're dealing with. Then I could share the same minute we could find synergy, and that got so popular, Deb, that I was doing five to eight a day, Monday through Friday, and people were answering my DMs that I never thought that would just answer a DM from someone. And I also in the DM, I said, you know, I see we have some mutual friends. I don't know how we haven't connected yet. Let's connect and you know explore synergy. And I got on those calls and I started refining the conversation. And I always look to control the conversation so that it stays on track of me finding out what they're working on right now that has them excited. People love talking about themselves and what they have going on. They're excited about it. The people that are mission driven, and I said if I could, if I could ask them about themselves and get them talking about what they're working on and what they're excited about, it's going to trigger something in them to to want to. About what I'm working on, and this guy's interested in me. I wanna, I wanna champion whatever he's doing too. So I would ask him that. They would fill me in on what they're working on. Then I would ask him because now remember, I wanna, I wanna cause and create futures for people. It's one of the most attractive things you can do. I want to know where they want to take it. What's your vision with this? What would have to happen with what you're doing to light you up that it happened, and then they paint that picture for me. Now I'm listening as a podcast host doing over 1000 episodes. I'm I become a pretty good listener.

Okay,

I wasn't always that way, but when I have the ability to hear what they're working on now, which shows me what they're paying attention to now, and then where they want to take it the future, actively listening to that, when I share what I'm doing, all the things that I'm doing, I can only, I only need to speak into the things I'm doing that align with what they talked about and where they want to go. So, for example, somebody talks to me and they, um, they got a business, but they're, you know, lacking attention on this business. Well, they possibly could use access to some top podcasts to get on as a guest. So after listening to them, I would say to them, you know, here's my story, and I would tell my story of how I got into podcasting and what it's done for me and where it's led me. And then I would say, for you, you know, you could really use some great exposure. I'm sure you agree. They said, yeah. Well, let me let me show you what we do by getting people massive exposure on top podcasts, access to shows they wouldn't normally have access to, or it could be somebody that needs to get their products in the hands of celebrities. And our friend Heather Mariana has gift gifting lounges for the Emmys and Grammy Oscars, and I can make an introduction to her. Now I'm called in creating a future for both of these people. So I just did this over and over again, five to eight times a day, Monday through Friday, and I also started to realize that these the the ones that are aligned and aligned with the way I operate would be good in a network. So why don't I also create a network and pull these people into a network? And we did that with what we call that one network that has over 810 people in it now, so that was kind of the start of the process and the story behind it.

There's so many people that are reflecting back right now to that time where we were having what I call our world health issue, our world health issue, and thinking back to some of the things that they did, and just going. I mean, it's really quite interesting. I think we hear it often about how people like to talk about themselves, and people like, oh, I'm like, no, the dig into finding out about somebody in a short period of time. I love how the follow up is, where are you taking us? Where are you taking this? And helping them in that sector, something that they haven't explored yet. Very cool. What are some of the interesting? Tell us some of the interesting stories. Like, tell us, tell us a cool, interesting story that happened for you with networking. I had one yesterday. I'll share maybe after yours. But what was one of the coolest surprises, Mike, that's happened for you that you just didn't see coming, just due to you being you, you following the gift, you following the divine, you following your dreams. What was like? Did not see that.

Well, there were so many. Wow, where do I start? Well, the one that I would point out, one guy, his name's Paul Hutchinson. He created a 40 some billion dollar real estate fund, and then he got recruited into these these the group of people that were doing sex trafficking raids in South America, and they would go down and and and Paul was a finance guy, and he understand money, and he could talk of financing things, and you know raising capital and what have you, and so they used him as an undercover part of the sex trafficking raids, and they would go, and he would talk to these people that wanted to create these sick, like just disgusting resorts where this stuff would take place. They eventually made a movie about it, and he was one of the executive producers for the Sound of Freedom movie. And when they were trying to get this out off the ground and get it into the theaters, he came to me and he was like, "Man, I really need exposure on this. I got, you know, we got to get this into theaters, and I could really use getting on some podcasts. And I see what you're doing; it's working. I've had a lot of success in business, but we don't have access to what you have access to. And could you, you know, help us do what you're doing for yourself, right? And we ended up getting him on probably 60 some podcasts during that time, and I'm not saying we had a whole lot to do with this part, but I don't know what the impact was, but I know that there was some. They got the movie in the box office, and the way they they raised they they raised some of the money for this is that they would basically ask people at the end of the movie to to buy tickets for other people in their family or the friends or their network, and so they people would buy tickets. So it ended up doing 200 some million in the box office, and it was the top movie that was picked up by a streaming service as far as the purchase price on Amazon, and so we were involved with that. And I

would have never imagined being involved with something like that. And I'm not taking any credit. Except for the fact that we just did the job of getting the podcast handled, and you know, so you look back at that, and I think sometimes as entrepreneurs and our accomplishments, we're so focused on the next thing in the future and what we want to build and our vision that we don't take a moment to really appreciate the things that have taken place on the journey.

That's very true. I had a different experience yesterday. It was it was interesting. It was it's not that same type of movie yet. The director is doing a movie about that in terms of what happens in initiations in universities and colleges and these kind of things and what's happening. But I think just being ourselves can also attract opportunities. So if you know anything about me, you know that I'll do almost anything for a good backstage pass for a concert. I'm pretty, I'm pretty music leaned. I'll say, right? Went to 5440 on Friday. It was fantastic. And a good friend of mine contacted me, and he said, "You did? You didn't come on the show? I go. What are you talking about? He goes. Did you get my email? I go. Honey, you know I don't email. You know I don't email. And he goes. I had the director of Peter Frampton's movie on, and the director Peter Frampton's movie, the direct the co-director has done Alicia Keys and and Katy Perry and 100 of these, 100 of these, and he's got like he said, triple X, and he's and I'm go, but the director is was in the band with Peter for 20 years, and so he just knows I'm a big fan, and so he goes, okay, I'm gonna get them back, like kind of have you on the show. Now, music doesn't necessarily have anything to do with my business, right? The the content of them, and it just came out of nowhere. And yesterday was the day that I got to go on on the show, and it was incredible. And when I came off the show, I go, "This is the land of the unforeseen." Like you know, when something comes to you that you can't see, that is a result of you know what we call standing up, showing up, and speaking up, and just whether it's the you know the posters that I have of music or the work that I do for Amnesty International. If you're familiar with them, with their music, it's just being there. And that opportunity came, and it was so soul filling to be able to spend time with someone who's you know, and they're doing he's doing multiple movies,

but just someone who's been a musician for 50 years, like 50 years, like five zero, you know, and to listen to a story because he's got a really powerful one. But that was just something that happened. It was a happenstance. It was a happenstance. Those things that you can't imagine that happen. Yeah,

yeah.

When you decided to be an entrepreneur, go ahead. Yeah, you got like yeah. When you decided, like when you made that decision to be an entrepreneur and go in this direction, what were you doing before this?

So I I've spent 20 years in the mortgage and real estate business. I built a large operation from Philadelphia to Miami, and we were doing very well financially. Prior to that, I was in learning sales and home sales and all that. But yeah, I didn't like the business I was in, but I was making a lot of money, and it became a trap. I allowed it to become a trap, and for years I lived with this trap feeling like this is all I can do, and I want to have this lifestyle and I want to be able to make this kind of money, but I feel trapped, and it sucks, and I don't like living this way. And when I hit 40, I said, "You know what? I got to figure something out. I got to garner up enough courage to figure out my next move." You know, I don't think I was lucky to have success in this business. It's not the business itself. It's, you know, I'm sure there's luck involved, but I have principles that I operate under. I love building people. I can do this in something else, and so from that point, I started winding the business down, and I saw the rate environment going up, which impacts the the amount of volume that we can do and the revenue that we can generate. But I also saw AI coming out, and I thought AI could do everything that we're going to be doing. This is five years, six years ago. I was thinking this, like AI is going to be able to do everything that we're doing in our business. I don't want to just stay here and just hope. So I started getting some great mentorship, and I got around people like Grant Cardone, for example. And you know, Grant's a really excellent person to talk to about getting known, right? And he said to me one time, and it really caught my attention. Is like, you are so, you know, you know, you have this ability to impact people and help people go further faster, but yet nobody knows you. And and if somebody's better at marketing and building a brand than you are, but they're not as good as whatever you do and not as impactful,

they're gonna win, and that's not okay. I was like, caught me there. I I'm not talking to that. I said, well, how do you get? He said, you got to go get known globally. And I said, how do you get known globally? He said, go get on podcasts as a guest and make it a part of your life and business. Don't just do it for a book launch and where you're just going on a tour. Make it a part of your life and business. Be consistent with it. The shows will start to grow. In level, it'll open up doors and bring people into your life and opportunities that you could have never had otherwise. And you'll create what I call, he said, an attraction model. He said because most people are in chase mode, and if you're in chase mode, it's impossible to to be fulfilled. And you're always chasing, chasing, chasing. He said this will create an attraction model and pull all these things into you make everything you do, you know, easier going forward. And I said, I love that. Okay, got it. So I listened to him, and I ended up probably listening to him too much, and ended up going on seven to 10 podcasts a week for five years straight. Okay, I've been on over 1800 podcasts as a guest in the last six years. It's changed my life though, and then Deb from there it led to big stages, and I would speak in front of crowds as many over 10,000 people, and I found myself in the green rooms with people that I was speaking at the same event that I'd only seen on television. You've probably experienced some of this as well. And I said, "Man, this is crazy!" And those people would talk to me like I was a peer, where I hadn't gotten there in my head that I'm I'm up here like of these people, and so it hit me that at that moment, and I I started to realize like this stuff really works. He knew what he was talking about.

I'm glad I put all these reps in the days that I didn't feel like going on a podcast, the day that I didn't feel like telling my story over and over again. Right? I get sick of it. I did it anyway. I just kept pounding, and it paid off. It compounded and exponentially, and allowed me to create one of the most amazing networks on the planet. Create the agency where now I don't have to just impact the world through my expertise. Of I know how to scale businesses and build brands. I'm a performance expert, but I don't have to just impact through that one lane. I can impact through biohacking, longevity doctors and experts, product founders, entertainment professionals, professional athletes, coaches, consultants, advisors in different areas. I can get them massive exposure or connect them with people and impact the world through all of these expertise, and that leads to exponential impact versus just impact.

Thank you. And there was something that you said that I believe is a good conversation here, and maybe this will take us to a little bit of a wrap up. But I think this is important. I don't want to skip over my. You are sitting in a green room, and you need to get your your head matching from a peer standpoint. I believe in there is a lot of conversations that I have with people, and I believe you do too, because you can't be in visibility and you can't be in media without having a conversation of taking someone. Whether you want to go from here to there or here to there, I don't care what it is. So, what did you do to get your head in the game? Because people, it's a very, it's a word that is being used a lot, and I don't know if it's landing or if it's being used. We keep hearing imposter syndrome, imposter syndrome, and maybe that falls in that category, but what was it that you needed to do? Was it repetition of skill? That reminds me of Tony Robbins. Was it repetition of skill that made you comfortable in the green rooms or getting on shows like I did or getting into the stadiums? Like, what did you do? What was the inner self conversation that Mike had with Mike that got you into a place that you felt peerish, you felt conversational, you felt like you were there.

Well, first thing I did was really get to find out who I am, and identify who I am as an identity. Like, what did God put me here for? What are my strengths and weaknesses? What are my passions? What what's the mission and intention that I want to have? And then be genuinely, authentically that, no matter where I went, just be me, and and without regard to what people think of me. And I didn't want to any ever anybody to ever run into me. Now, when when when people see me in person after seeing me online or social media, a lot of the times I'll get, oh, I thought you were taller. I'm five foot seven. I'm five foot seven, and and they say, but there's this there's this presence that you carry online, like this this beingness that's very large, and I thought you so I might get that. That's okay, but what I never wanted to ever have is somebody to meet me and say, you know, they were disappointed because they thought I was somebody that I wasn't, and I met a lot of people that I looked up to or admired from far, and I met them in person and realized they're insecure. They're they're actually mean. They weren't really genuinely themselves, and I never wanted that. So number one, that's what I stay true to. The other thing is that I started realizing like everybody's a human being and everybody has their own problems, and you know you may see somebody have success online or they might have business success or celebrity, but if you notice when you watch celebrity news, TMZ or whatever, a lot of celebrities have problems with relationships. They a lot of celebrity, not all of them, but a lot of them have problems with drug addiction or other addictions. Or you know, we see people like you know a lot of mental health issues, right? So everybody's a human being living this life, and I started to realize that, and I started to think, you know what? I'm just going to talk to people as people, not as their presence, not as their celebrity or their brand, and just

start really showing interest in the human being versus what they've accomplished, what they've done, what they do. And that's paid off in in huge huge ways. Like if I have a great guest on my show, or if I'm in studio, or whether it's virtual, I just look at him as a person, and I want to find out about that person. And I used to I used to be a little starstruck at first because I grew up in a days and age where we didn't have internet, right, and we had the television. And I used to watch Happy Days growing up, and what's happening, and you know all these different shows. Buck Rogers with David Hasselhoff, Baywatch, right? And then I got I got the opportunity to be have an interaction with David Hasselhoff. Jeremy Jackson was David Hasselhoff's son on Baywatch, and I I got to meet him. He came to one of our events, and I started to realize like these these these are human beings, man.

Yeah,

you know, and and it just started. You know, we have different experiences, and we can speak from our experiences, and that's just how I approached it, and it seemed to work.

Mike, I know we're coming to to wrap. Is there anything else that you want to share with an audience of people that are going big? That I mean, you know, we talk about making history on Mission Accepted. We talk about being in the middle, coming out for air. We talk about the stretch. Is there anything else that you want to share about you, what you do, your industry, your advice for the audience before we have a?

Yeah, I mean, I have the number one podcast booking firm in North America for those that want to get on top podcasts. So I'm always looking and for people that want help with that, that want access to stuff that they don't normally have access to. But I also created one of the world's best networks on the planet, and we're developing that into a place where it's beyond a WhatsApp group where we can actually we do events live in person. We're bringing people together for great Conversations, education, social socializing, and deeper networking, and then teaching people how to properly network and the most efficient and effective way. So, if anybody's interested in any of this stuff, I would love for people to DM me on Instagram at Mikey Crock C R O C Mikey C Rock. Shoot me a DM. Let them let me know that you saw me here with Deb, and I'd love to have a conversation with you. Do a little 15 mini. Learn more about what you're working on, and to see where we can take it. I

think we need to make a cocktail called 15 mini.

Yeah,

I think that would be a great cocktail at one of your live events. It'd be fantastic. Look, before I go and talk to the audience. Want to thank you for being here. Hang out a little bit, and audience, you know how this works. First of all, I'm going to say thank you, thank you for participating, thank you for showing, thank you for sharing, thank you for commenting, thank you for letting us know through our DMs who it is that you want to see here and why you want to see them. So we so appreciate you. I love that we've had this conversation about visibility. I always say, you know, the book appears when the pages need to be written. You know, talk to us about anything that you want to do. If you want to have a conversation about confidence, if you want to have a conversation about the 220 speaking spots we have on stage next year, Mike, we got to get you up on the stage. We got to get you up on our stage. Then you know what to do, and it's time to go big because if it wasn't, you wouldn't be watching the show, particularly with Mike as a guest, so I'm going to ask you to stretch yourself a little bit today. I hope you feel more connected. I hope you feel understand a little bit more about leverage and the power that you have inside. And with that being said, I'm going to tell you the same thing that I always tell you, and then I'm going to ask Mike a question that he doesn't know what's coming, and I'm going to tell you to be well and to stay groovy. And Mike, on that wrap, I'm going to ask you completely shifting gears. You know, okay, I already admitted I'm a little bit of a music person. You're packing tomorrow. You're going on a trip, just you and you, and you don't know when you're coming back. And you've got one suitcase. And on this private island that we're going to send you to, we've already set you up with a nice record player. It's got to be vinyl. So if you're taking one piece of vinyl with you, either song, singer, or album, and it can't

be a greatest hits, what are you packing in your suitcase to go? Oh

well, that's easy because my daughter and I, we she plays travel softball, so we do a lot of driving. We're in the car for practices and lessons and then tournaments. And in our house, 24/7, you'll hear Morgan Wallen playing. So it's got to be it's got to be Morgan Wallen, and you know I'm the problem album. Maybe

okay, okay, good. There it is, there it is. Mike, thank you for being part of Mission Accepted. You guys again, be a follow-on, State Groovy, and we will see you next week. Bye for now.