Who are you becoming because you love your pet?
Coco sits down with her son Joe, an actor, director, writer, and photojournalist in Los Angeles, for a heartfelt family conversation about his relationship with Aela, the independent black cat who came into his life during COVID.
When Joe adopted Aela, he imagined having a cuddly little cat who would happily spend hours sitting on his lap. Instead, he got Aela, a social, intelligent, playful, fiercely independent cat with her own ideas about affection, attention, and exactly how life should work.
Over six years together, Joe has learned to recognize Aela's unique ways of communicating and to look beyond behavior to consider what she might be needing. He's also learned to let go of his expectations and appreciate the relationship they actually have rather than trying to turn Aela into the cuddly lap cat he originally imagined.
Their relationship has changed Joe, too. Caring for another life means coming home when he'd rather stay out, planning around feeding times, thinking about Aela while traveling, and putting her needs ahead of his own convenience. Alongside living independently and his martial arts practice, Joe credits caring for Aela with strengthening his discipline, maturity, and sense of responsibility.
But as the conversation becomes more personal, Coco and Joe discover something deeper. Maybe love doesnât always change us into someone new. Sometimes it gives us room to become more fully who we already areâand allows the people who love us to see what may have been there all along.
Ultimately, Coco turns the question around. Instead of always asking how our animals are changing because of us, what might we discover if we notice who we are becoming because we love them?
What This May Open Up for You:
- Why loving an animal doesn't mean they have to become the pet you imagined they would be.
- How learning your pet's individual ways of communicating can help you look beyond frustrating behavior to what they may need in that moment.
- Why releasing expectations can create more room to appreciate your animal's unique personality.
- How caring for another life can strengthen responsibility, discipline, patience, and maturity.
- The possibility that love doesnât always make us someone newâit may help reveal more of who we already are.
- Why love sometimes means making room for another being to be exactly who they are.
About Josef âJoeâ Akira:
Josef âJoeâ Akira is a first-generation Japanese American actor, director, and photojournalist living in Santa Monica, California. With roots in photojournalism, he describes his creative style as minimalistic and aesthetic, with an emphasis on capturing honest, authentic moments. Whether through film or photography, love remains a central thread throughout his work.
Joe joins his mom, Coco, for a heartfelt family conversation inspired by his relationship with Aela, his beloved queen cat.
Discover his work: https://www.acianofilms.com/
Follow him: @asianjo
About Coco:
Coco is a certified Animal Naturopath, neonatal kitten specialist, founder of Furbulous Livingâ˘, and host of Happy You. Happy Dog., where she explores the beautiful relationship between humans and their beloved animal companions. Alongside Mana the Maltipoo and her little family of cats, Coco shares heartfelt stories, gentle reflections, and meaningful conversations about love, belonging, joy, and the wonderfully ordinary moments that make life sweeter together.
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Email: hello@furbulousliving.com
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Hello, darling. Before we begin, I am so excited
Coco Moon:to tell you today I have someone super special, my middle son
Coco Moon:Joe, with me and my lad. He's an actor, director, writer, and
Coco Moon:photojournalist in L.A. and he's the dad to his black kitty and
Coco Moon:player. Would you like to say hello?
Coco Moon:Josef âJoeâ Akira: She came to say hello too.
Coco Moon:Oh, hi, baby. Hi, hi, hi,
Coco Moon:Josef âJoeâ Akira: love.
Coco Moon:Hi, I love her emerald green eyes.
Coco Moon:Josef âJoeâ Akira: Yeah, I'm hoping she'll just stay in my
Coco Moon:lap, but we probably have five minutes before she comes
Coco Moon:on. That's okay. Thanks for coming, Ayla.
Coco Moon:Josef âJoeâ Akira: Yeah, she came right in time.
Coco Moon:So lovely to see you. So, for somebody who's never met
Coco Moon:Aela, how would you describe her?
Coco Moon:Josef âJoeâ Akira: Well, Ayla, she's really sweet and she loves
Coco Moon:people. Like I just had um, I just used my apartment for a
Coco Moon:base camp for a short film, and there was probably like 15 to 20
Coco Moon:people that came through, and I had to like section off my my
Coco Moon:back part of my studio, and she was scratching the whole time
Coco Moon:because she just wants pets. She wants to meet people. Really,
Coco Moon:just very social. She doesn't like other cats, but she likes
Coco Moon:people.
Coco Moon:Yeah, she's the star of the show all the time. She
Coco Moon:Josef âJoeâ Akira: runs this studio. This is not my studio.
Coco Moon:How did you two find each other?
Coco Moon:Josef âJoeâ Akira: It happened during COVID. Must have happened
Coco Moon:within two or three months of COVID. I was seeing this girl.
Coco Moon:She told me about some cats. Or no, I think she just invited me
Coco Moon:to her friend's place because they were like her friend had a
Coco Moon:pool, and then I actually brought Emilio. And then it
Coco Moon:turned out that the owner of the house had a litter of kittens
Coco Moon:that were just running around everywhere. And then a
Coco Moon:conversation happened, and then I picked one up. It was Ayla.
Coco Moon:She bit me and scratched me, and I was like, "This is this is the
Coco Moon:one. And then I think two two weeks later, because they had to
Coco Moon:be weaned by the mom, I believe, for a little bit longer. I had
Coco Moon:to wait for that period to end, and I went and grabbed her, and
Coco Moon:then six years later, she's still here.
Coco Moon:Time flies. It's been six years. Wow.
Coco Moon:Josef âJoeâ Akira: Yeah, I think it was June or July of 2020 when
Coco Moon:I got her, yeah.
Coco Moon:Um, what did you think you were getting when
Coco Moon:Ayala came into your life, and what did you actually get?
Coco Moon:Josef âJoeâ Akira: Um, I thought I was going to get a cute little
Coco Moon:kitty cat that wanted to sit next to me, be on my lap all the
Coco Moon:time, and then I got a cat who had her own personality and does
Coco Moon:not do what I want.
Coco Moon:So, did you understand her right away, or
Coco Moon:did you have to learn how to be with her?
Coco Moon:Josef âJoeâ Akira: I think because I got her as a kitten,
Coco Moon:it was kind of easy to train her. Again, super playful, is
Coco Moon:super sweet. Everyone loved her, you know. And then, eventually,
Coco Moon:she really learned my personality and came into her
Coco Moon:own personality. So, whenever she wants anything, she just
Coco Moon:screams, pees on my stuff, or throws up on my stuff, and then
Coco Moon:she gets what she wants.
Coco Moon:So that's the way she's telling you, or she's
Coco Moon:communicating with you.
Coco Moon:Josef âJoeâ Akira: She's super smart because I've been gone a
Coco Moon:lot for this short film. She's been peeing and doing stuff a
Coco Moon:lot more lately, and I just had to like just eventually realize
Coco Moon:that she's a cat. She can't speak. There's there's stuff
Coco Moon:that she's annoyed at. Like maybe I didn't pick up her
Coco Moon:letterbox, you know. So like within the last six years, it
Coco Moon:really showed me like, hey, like she's not just doing this stuff
Coco Moon:just to do it. Like she is being a brat some of the times, but a
Coco Moon:lot of the times she has like an actual reason. Either I forgot
Coco Moon:to feed her, I didn't give her enough attention, or the
Coco Moon:letterbox. But yeah, she's very, very intelligent.
Coco Moon:I think. Well, as you know, I have you know four mana
Coco Moon:and Hokusoda and Haru, and each of them have their own like
Coco Moon:unique way communicating with me or telling me what they want or
Coco Moon:what's going on with them. Other people may, you know, get mad or
Coco Moon:look look at just you know what's going on. Oh my gosh, she
Coco Moon:peed, or oh my gosh, you know the little box is just a mess.
Coco Moon:Where you came in and understanding. Okay, wait a
Coco Moon:minute. This is the way she is. You know. Me something, you
Coco Moon:know. She's communicating with me, and I think that's
Coco Moon:wonderful. Took years,
Coco Moon:Josef âJoeâ Akira: especially when I'm in production. I'm
Coco Moon:stressed. I just immediately go into. She's just, you know,
Coco Moon:doing it, and it's annoying.
Coco Moon:But
Coco Moon:Josef âJoeâ Akira: then a few hours, a couple days, I then I
Coco Moon:realized, oh, it was it was that, but definitely took a long
Coco Moon:time to get there. Right, it's not easy, as you know, with
Coco Moon:a cat. Of course, how does she show you affection? Her
Coco Moon:affection just with you,
Coco Moon:Josef âJoeâ Akira: only when she wants food. Her her sign of
Coco Moon:affection is waking me up at six a.m. meowing. I don't follow up
Coco Moon:by 630 meowing. Meowing. But there there are a few times
Coco Moon:where she'll just come up and try to not snuggle or show want
Coco Moon:affection. But really, it's funny what she does when I'm
Coco Moon:like, let's say I was gone 6p.m. to six a.m2. nights this
Coco Moon:weekend. She'll just ignore me and just like kind of do a lot
Coco Moon:of this kind of stuff, and then I'll just like I'll like grab
Coco Moon:her and just like hold her, and then she'll like me out for like
Coco Moon:two seconds, and then just melt into my arms. Yeah, you just
Coco Moon:wanted attention, and you just didn't want to say that you
Coco Moon:wanted attention. You wanted me to pick you up, forcefully grab
Coco Moon:you, hug you, and then you wanted to try to fight it off.
Coco Moon:But you, her fighting off, was not fighting off. You know.
Coco Moon:Yeah, she's making sure you know how much she
Coco Moon:missed you, in her sassy way,
Coco Moon:Josef âJoeâ Akira: or she's just like, "I don't want you to do
Coco Moon:this, but I want it.
Coco Moon:She's such a queen. So, was there anything about her
Coco Moon:that you initially wished were different, but eventually
Coco Moon:realized was simply part of who she is. You already, you know,
Coco Moon:talked a little bit about that, but tell me more about that.
Coco Moon:Josef âJoeâ Akira: I want, I want a lap cat. The other kid in
Coco Moon:my head would just literally just sit on my lap for hours,
Coco Moon:and then I would be like, "All right, my legs sleep. I don't
Coco Moon:have to have to move it. I get maybe five seconds with her in
Coco Moon:my laptop. She's a zoop and she's off. But again, that's her
Coco Moon:personality. Can't change it, and I wouldn't change
Coco Moon:it. Has she ever made you confront your own
Coco Moon:expectations?
Coco Moon:Josef âJoeâ Akira: I can't have expectations with her because
Coco Moon:she is so herself that I have to, you know, just like I can't
Coco Moon:expect anything from her. She's a cat and she has her own
Coco Moon:personality, so I've like kind of thrown away expectations. If
Coco Moon:I get cuddles with her for five seconds or a minute, I get it.
Coco Moon:If not, cool, moving on. If I'm um really tired and I have a fit
Coco Moon:away, I do expect cuddles. But you know, I'm gonna hug her for
Coco Moon:as long as she will let me, and then I'll let her go. Sometimes
Coco Moon:a little longer.
Coco Moon:I. It sounds like you accept her as she is. Something
Coco Moon:I've been thinking about while creating this show is how easily
Coco Moon:it is to confuse loving someone with knowing what's best for
Coco Moon:them, or wanting them to behave in the way that makes the
Coco Moon:relationship easier for us. What happens when the being you love
Coco Moon:simply refuses to cooperate with your version of who they are
Coco Moon:supposed to be? When you think about who you were before I left
Coco Moon:and who you are now,
Coco Moon:Josef âJoeâ Akira: I would say the two major things that have
Coco Moon:changed me in the last few years is one, her definitely like
Coco Moon:having to be responsible for her, making sure like I used to
Coco Moon:go out so much and not have to come back around dinner time to
Coco Moon:feed her, you know, or I could sleep over, you know, and be all
Coco Moon:out all night, and then like not have to worry about feeding her
Coco Moon:by eight a.m. you know. So having that and like traveling,
Coco Moon:obviously, then I'm like, as you know, like when you're
Coco Moon:traveling, your pets are all in the back of your mind, you know.
Coco Moon:So I think that kind of helped me mature into a person who had
Coco Moon:a little bit more discipline and responsibility, and then doing
Coco Moon:martial arts, which was my number two thing that has really
Coco Moon:helped mold me into the person I am today, because I did train a
Coco Moon:lot of different types of people, people with egos, people
Coco Moon:who are scared of martial. People who were too excited
Coco Moon:about doing martial arts, and my and it's 100% all the
Coco Moon:philosophies that my guru Danon Asanto has given me. But you you
Coco Moon:just can't change anyone. People need to change for themselves,
Coco Moon:and you trying to change them is just going to be an obstacle.
Coco Moon:You're just going to butt heads, or you won't butt heads. But I
Coco Moon:think that she also kind of adapts to my where I'm at
Coco Moon:physiologically and emotionally, and then like kind of adapts
Coco Moon:just like the way I adapt with her, you know, which is really
Coco Moon:cool.
Coco Moon:Over the years, you know, you've been with her, you
Coco Moon:know, six years, learning about each other, accepting who she
Coco Moon:is, and she accepting, you know, who you are, and I think she she
Coco Moon:knows that okay, Dad has been filming; he needs to sleep, like
Coco Moon:when we lost, you know, our co. Your brother Mana tuned into my
Coco Moon:emotions so much that you know Mana got sick, and she was
Coco Moon:emotionally, you know, all over the place. But that was what I
Coco Moon:was going through, reflecting onto Mana because we are so
Coco Moon:tuned in with each other.
Coco Moon:Josef âJoeâ Akira: Yeah, and pets definitely reflect their
Coco Moon:owners' personalities for sure. Every every one of my friends
Coco Moon:who have pets, their their dog or their cat has a little bit of
Coco Moon:them in it, you know. And the sassiness probably comes from
Coco Moon:me.
Coco Moon:Yeah, I remember when you got Aela; she became your
Coco Moon:priority. Not that like she changed who you are, but you
Coco Moon:expanded yourself by you know having Aela.
Coco Moon:Josef âJoeâ Akira: Once you have a life form that's dependent on
Coco Moon:you to feed it, water it, you know, clean up after
Coco Moon:it.
Coco Moon:Josef âJoeâ Akira: You either got to step up or you don't.
Coco Moon:So there is another reason I wanted to have this
Coco Moon:particular conversation with you. You've kind of always been
Coco Moon:very much your own person, and but as your mom loving you has
Coco Moon:also asked me to expand, to let you become you, rather than
Coco Moon:holding too tightly to some picture or vision of who I
Coco Moon:thought my son would become. So I have one question that I've
Coco Moon:been waiting to ask you. Who do you think you are becoming
Coco Moon:because you love Isla?
Coco Moon:Josef âJoeâ Akira: Um. Yeah, I don't. I don't know how to
Coco Moon:answer that. No, that's okay. So busy that like I don't even
Coco Moon:think about things or how I'm changing. I kind of just things
Coco Moon:need to happen, and I just do them. And that's like what Ayla
Coco Moon:taught me. Like, oh, am I annoyed that I have to wake up
Coco Moon:at seven or eight to feed her? Who cares what I what I feel? I
Coco Moon:have to do it, so just get get the hell up, you know, and feed
Coco Moon:her. You know, oh, maybe I want to stay over at this person's
Coco Moon:house way longer, or in the or in the morning, and then have
Coco Moon:lunch. But no, I have to head home at eight a.m. to feed my
Coco Moon:cat. You know, I was gonna say, like as a mom, you already know,
Coco Moon:like once there are responsibilities, your wants and
Coco Moon:needs no longer matter, and you just have to do and and do it.
Coco Moon:You know, and that's the biggest biggest lesson I learned with
Coco Moon:her.
Coco Moon:Before show came along, you being the youngest,
Coco Moon:you were the baby of the family, and you know over the years. I'm
Coco Moon:just really, really proud of you, the man you have become.
Coco Moon:You always kind of being true to yourself. I know that, but you
Coco Moon:found your passion. You found your dream, and you got into
Coco Moon:martial arts. You know which is part of our background, part of
Coco Moon:our tradition culture, and you learned so much of the principle
Coco Moon:behind that. And then you found your love in filming, directing,
Coco Moon:acting, but I have watched you expand yourself, staying true to
Coco Moon:yourself, always going forward, you know, towards what you
Coco Moon:believe, what you're passionate about, what you love. The most
Coco Moon:and watching my baby expand in that way-it's you inspire me,
Coco Moon:you encourage me to keep going, and I'm just so so proud of you.
Coco Moon:Josef âJoeâ Akira: Yeah, I think like it wasn't only Ayla, but
Coco Moon:like being on my own since 18. Again, like you know, you don't
Coco Moon:have time to figure stuff out. You got to pay rent. You got to
Coco Moon:figure out your next move, and not. And I think lucky or
Coco Moon:unlucky, not having that support system starting in 18, you know,
Coco Moon:early just threw me into like, hey, like it's kind of all on
Coco Moon:you. Everything that you do, every decision that you make
Coco Moon:from now on, you actually feel the repercussions of it because
Coco Moon:you're on your own, you know. And then that just expanded when
Coco Moon:I got Ayla, you know, because then I not only had to offend
Coco Moon:for myself, but I had to fend for two people, you know. And as
Coco Moon:a single mom, like you freaking know that better than anyone,
Coco Moon:right? So like I'm proud of you for dealing with three rebel,
Coco Moon:troublesome kids growing up, you know. So yeah.
Coco Moon:When you got Isla, I have to be, you know, completely
Coco Moon:transparent, honest that I did worry that you have now, you
Coco Moon:know, this little being that you're responsible for, and I
Coco Moon:wasn't sure at the time that how you're gonna be able to, you
Coco Moon:know, keep Aela, but you have you put her before you. Um, you
Coco Moon:moved around a lot too, and you've been so busy with
Coco Moon:multiple in different project, but you make choice every single
Coco Moon:day to put her in front of you and make her priority, and she knows.
Coco Moon:Josef âJoeâ Akira: Yeah, one of my martial arts instructors told
Coco Moon:me this recently. Like Joe, your heart has always been there.
Coco Moon:You've always been that same person. It's just other people
Coco Moon:couldn't see that, you know. But once people do realize that,
Coco Moon:that's where that gold is. And now, because I'm not out there
Coco Moon:partying, being a troublemaker, it's a lot easier to see that
Coco Moon:side of me. But it's always been there, so I'm glad you get to
Coco Moon:see that. And I guess when I got Ayla, that was more apparent to
Coco Moon:you. But you know, he told me he's been making my, he's been
Coco Moon:helping me validate myself because I've, I've always been
Coco Moon:this person. You know, I've never not been a person with a
Coco Moon:big heart who cared about other people, you know. Maybe
Coco Moon:sometimes it was hidden, but it was always there, you know.
Coco Moon:You always been that person with big heart, and that
Coco Moon:reminded me that you know you talk about how Aela in the
Coco Moon:mouths and get your attention. As a baby, you did that. You
Coco Moon:were, you know, out of all your brothers, you are the one who
Coco Moon:screamed for love, who screamed for attention, and you know, you
Coco Moon:were always picked up by. I mean, even I think you are in
Coco Moon:like first grade. You know, I still come to come to school to
Coco Moon:pick you up, and you know, I pick you up because you wanted
Coco Moon:me to, you know, hold you. And now, everything you do, your
Coco Moon:short film, you tell the story. You're storyteller in everything
Coco Moon:you do, and your love, your big heart does come through in all
Coco Moon:of the project or work you do. So you always been that person.
Coco Moon:Josef âJoeâ Akira: And that's that's funny that you mentioned
Coco Moon:me as a baby because that is definitely one of she definitely
Coco Moon:reflects that. But I wish she would just want me to haul her
Coco Moon:more. I would carry her as much as she wanted. She just asked.
Coco Moon:But I think it's so sweet that you don't push
Coco Moon:yourself onto her. Yes, you want more cuddles, you want lap cat,
Coco Moon:but you know who she is, and you just accept that. Listening to
Coco Moon:Joe makes me wonder, who are we becoming because we love our fur
Coco Moon:babies? Not who are they becoming because of us, but who
Coco Moon:are we becoming? Because we love this particular little soul, I
Coco Moon:just want us to notice we may be surprised by what we discover.
Coco Moon:Before we say goodbye, here is this week's little love message
Coco Moon:from my love messages from your pet oracle. This week's card is,
Coco Moon:I trust you. Sometimes love is simply making room for another
Coco Moon:being to be exactly who they are, and trust in the
Coco Moon:relationship that grows from here. Joe, thank you so much for
Coco Moon:being here with me and Manna, and for sharing a little bit of
Coco Moon:you and Aela with us. I love you so much.
Coco Moon:Josef âJoeâ Akira: You too,
Coco Moon:mom. I love to hear what you and your fur baby
Coco Moon:discovered together this week. Until then, take gentle care of
Coco Moon:yourself and your precious one, because your happiness matters.

